Caster Race

[Judge Cudge]

Hey I'm a big fan of this game, but I was wondering if there would ever be a race made that actually has a particular aptitude at being a caster?

As of right now it seems the only race that has a statline that even 'kinda' leans towards a casting playstyle is quooz and dwarf. And quooz's core no movement speed gimmick is unfun to the point of unplayability for me.

Will there ever be a mage that can walk?

[FubarOne]

Seemujh is about as caster-ish as you can get.

Infinite energy, but low max. Four casting slots.

[Judge Cudge]

Ahh lemme check em out. I was just looking at statlines at first and then going off of memory to examine skills.

[Arevi]

Yea Seemujh is the caster race. You can also play the Shadow Skull race if you want a real challenge, your Eng becomes your life but regens in shadow

[Judge Cudge]

The poor stat growth on seemujh makes the energy tricks not quite as useful as I'd want. I've really never had quite as much energy problems as most people seem to, but I'm pretty autistic about food management.

At any rate I've had better luck playing almost any other race with a 2 or 3 per level stat growth as caster.

Also I tried the shadow skull and I find them nearly unplayable. Maybe I need to crutch class and go caster later on them but early game you just grind yourself down on the very first non-rat enemy you fight even if you never get hit. Maybe I was just unlucky and you accelerate into ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ OPness afterwards but the start was so rough it was despiriting.

[FubarOne]

You shouldn't really need all that much energy on Seemujh since their energy instantly refills, and if you're going for a caster anyway then it's easy enough to find wands with cost reduction or just enchant gear to arcane. They get 2 points per level like half of the other races and the only stat they don't get full effect from is ENG, but again the infinite nature of it fixes that.

Or just go Wrought since they're one of the strongest all around races until CHM gets changed, and possibly still after that.

[Arevi]

Im not sure i agree that 2 points per level is bad. Its the standard average.
3 is high and 4 per level is restricted to the really odd races.
Like Fubar said, they have infinite energy. The blue orbs on the bar are ''free'' casts so unless you spam beyond that then you shouldnt need points in Eng. Wands Quad casting also massively boosts this.

[Judge Cudge]

Ok you seem to be talking past both me and each other. The only reason the Seemujh are supposed to be good casters is the energy, my comment was that energy wasn't a problem, making this ability useless to me.

Further Seemujh only get one stat point per level, and I just double checked and that is definitely the case.

Furtherer no one said 2 points per level is bad, the implication of my statement was that I would play a different race that instead had those qualities, implying (apparently failing) that Seemujh didn't as they instead have one point per level.

So in conclusion, energy related boosts are useless, no class that has them is actually better suited to casting in the late game where food isn't a problem. And Seemujh have a 1 stat point growth per level, which is abhorrent and should be spat upon.

I want a either some sort of big int boy, someone who has a combined stat with int, or some sort of special effect related to specifically casting.

[FubarOne]

Turn on advanced settings. Every race gets 1 point automatically added to CON if you're not using the advanced settings.

[Judge Cudge]

That's P cool. But it still means that Seemujh is comparably bad.

[Arevi]

It seems less like you want advice and more that you want to complain that an Int focused race doesnt exist. Work with what you have and not what you want. You asked for Caster Races and we answered.

Just because you dont like it doesnt change anything. Seemujh is the caster race.

[Judge Cudge]

That's exactly what I want and the obvious singular purpose of me making this thread.

I was wondering why there wasn't one, and instead of saying "Yeah that sucks and is a genuinely strange thing considering there is a swath of races exceptionally suited to other classes." two people came here to say "Ackshueally, the Seemujh kinda."

Kinda isn't good enough considering every other class but leader has several "A Bunch" synergies. It's a mechanical hole that needs filling in a game that has room to fill it.

The point of the thread was to hopefully get the dev to add one by noticing this as a flaw. You aren't being clever, you are just trying to be smarmy while now realizing what should have been obvious from the beginning.

If you want to argue that the Seemujh is just as good at casting as the speed strength combo race is at warrioring that'd be a different story. You'd be wrong, but you could try.

[Arevi]

Originally posted by Judge Cudge:

That's exactly what I want and the obvious singular purpose of me making this thread.

I was wondering why there wasn't one, and instead of saying "Yeah that sucks and is a genuinely strange thing considering there is a swath of races exceptionally suited to other classes." two people came here to say "Ackshueally, the Seemujh kinda."

Kinda isn't good enough considering every other class but leader has several "A Bunch" synergies. It's a mechanical hole that needs filling in a game that has room to fill it.

The point of the thread was to hopefully get the dev to add one by noticing this as a flaw. You aren't being clever, you are just trying to be smarmy while now realizing what should have been obvious from the beginning.

If you wan't to argue that the Seemujh is just as good at casting as the speed strength combo race is at warrioring that'd be a different story. You'd be wrong, but you could try.

Smarmy? You asked a question and it was answered. Now your just being a whiny ♥♥♥♥ because you didnt get the answer you wanted. Stop acting like a child now when you get it pointed out.

Your question : I was wondering if there would ever be a race made that actually has a particular aptitude at being a caster?

The answer : Seemujh

Now ♥♥♥♥ off

[Judge Cudge]

"Would ever be" being the key words in my post. You seem actually mad that you misinterpreted this thread as a call for advice. Either make the argument or leave, don't just be mad that you were wrong about what this thread was.

This is an in development game, and the collection of races is lacking in this area. This is a more than reasonable suggestion.

[Judge Cudge]

That move speed tho... its too much.

[FubarOne]

So take Athlete at some point and use roll and dash to move