The 13th Doll: A Fan Game of The 7th Guest

The 13th Doll: A Fan Game of The 7th Guest

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Sir. Squeezes Nov 14, 2019 @ 12:13pm
who is the lady in white?
the book never said anything about stauf ever finding love. and the shop assistant he had just stopped working one day and never came back. because there was a dark force inside the toyshop and henry knew she was scared too come back. and he did not kill someone inside the toyshop so who is she and where did she came from?
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Zico Nov 14, 2019 @ 1:27pm 
You can find the tale about her and her relation with Stauf in a video sequence inside a book just after resolving the library puzzle with Dr. Richmond.
Sir. Squeezes Nov 14, 2019 @ 1:30pm 
The book is a lie too trick Dr. Richmond
Remember the house has many powers
lacktheknack Nov 16, 2019 @ 4:17pm 
Yeah, but she also claims to have been married to him. When two enemies agree that they are married, that leaves little room for doubt.

It's thematically consistent and perfectly reasonable to assume that Stauf and Lilith aren't constantly lying at all times, so they were married and he killed her after she ruined some plan of his. If the hauntings are echoes of the past, like they were in the first game, then Stauf killed Lilith as seen in the workshop.
Sir. Squeezes Nov 17, 2019 @ 5:47am 
She didnt ruin the plan because stauf didnt know there was a plan in the begin. stauf only did what the voices told him to do. The same evil force that guided stauf into the forrest where he made the first doll. Stauf never came up with the plan he was guided.
EPDNBuster Nov 17, 2019 @ 7:52am 
Here is my understanding of the story as a team member but, the best thing about art is that art is ALWAYS up for interpretation by the end viewer.

I'm putting my thoughts in spoiler tags so as not to ruin things for anyone. These are not canon to our game but, my personal thoughts.

Lilith was married to Stauf. She initially did care about him and think of him as a good man because he was rising in popularity and appeared to be well-liked in the town. Lilith also was a person who wanted to be connected with a man of power/prestige.

Of course, Stauf had some level of trust in her and would share at least some of what the voices were telling him. Perhaps that included the virus, who knows. Stauf clearly had a lab in the house, however, the cannonical story said he built the house after the virus outbreak. It could be that part of the house was under construction, the lab being on one of the lowest levels, it may have been complete already.

Regardless of whether Stauf made the virus or it was "given" to him, Lilith knew in some way. Now, there clearly was a falling out between Lilith and Stauf at some point. I don't think that his evil alone is what repelled her but, perhaps the fact that he refused to share his power with her. She wanted to ruin his plans not for altruistic reasons but, because Stauf was selfish. She likely would have gone along with him and become just as evil had he shared his evil power with her fully. Although, they would have likely stabbed each other in the back eventually as evil does.

You can see this in some of the Tad endings. Lilith clearly wants to overpower Stauf and get power of her own but, not to save the other children. She is just as selfish as Stauf, albeit slightly less evil. While we can feel a little bad that Stauf kept her soul imprisoned in the house as a purgatory of sorts, she also has her own evil intents.
Sir. Squeezes Nov 17, 2019 @ 9:44am 
So the story is not canon

1. Stauf never fell in love and lilith never apears in the novel

2. There was no virus it was some kind of dark magic. the souls of the childeren are trapped inside the toys and they needed to be collected

3. The house has all the power not stauf.
Like stauf said in the 11th hour
“Never doubt the power of this house”
He just makes the deals and the puzzles

4. The house was build during the outbreak.
When he heard the costumers talk about the childeren dying. He had a hard time too
Keep a poker face cus he enjoyed it and when it was build he closed the shop

5. The house made the lab. Everything inside the house cannot exist just look at the layout of the map and try too fit it inside the frame of the house
Zico Nov 17, 2019 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by Sir. Squeezes:
5. The house made the lab. Everything inside the house cannot exist just look at the layout of the map and try too fit it inside the frame of the house

I must admit I've always wondered why (since the 1993 original game) in terms of architecture the 1st floor doesn't fit the 2nd, and why there are rooms with windows and others without. And for those having windows, they're not disposed the same way was we can see them from outside the house.

:steamfacepalm:
Last edited by Zico; Nov 17, 2019 @ 10:11am
gousan1 Nov 6, 2020 @ 12:54pm 
thank you zico and sir squeezes for clearing doubts whether this was cannon or not.
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