drills

[murlocgriswold]

is there any reason to upgrade my tier 1 drills on tier 1 dirt with tier 3 drills

[Klandor]

I don't know how much T3 Drills will get you, but there is a consideration for T2 Drills on T1 Dirt. First of all, if you're going to run ANY T2 Drills, you're going to want Cloutium Pipes. A Cloutium Intake Pipe exceeds the max water pressure for Iron Pipe and T1 Equipment. With Cloutium Pipes (including Cloutium Pressure Tanks at regular intervals), you'll get pressure leaks at ever piece of T1 Equipment. You CAN run T2 equipment on Iron Pipes, but you'll get better speed out of Cloutium Pipes for your Conveyors. I've heard of tricks for using Cloutium Pipes and avoiding pressure leaks by using Iron Pressure Tanks ahead of T1 Equipment, but you'll then want a Cloutium Pressure Tank before any stretch of T2 Equipment, in order to maximize performance of the T2 Equipment.

I cannot really comment on T3 Equipment or Piping as I've not researched or used it, yet, but I suspect it would not be worth it to run T1 Equipment on T3 Pipes, especially as you need Prospecting Tokens to purchase Corestone (T3) Pipes.

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If you did not touch T2 dirt yet i dont think you can upgrade to T3 at all. Cuz no corestone?

As for the question, there is no real benefit in having T2 or T3 drills on a T1 dirt. In general, the deeper you put your miners - the better. Bigger chunks, more value, more rare ores etc. T1 drills are limited to T1 dirt obv. So you want to upgrade your machines but you also want to put them as deep as possible.

To deter any trolls that gonna say "oh but he could use better pipes with better drills so more water pressure -> more speed -> more T1 crap". Trust me, not worth it.

[Klandor]

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If you did not touch T2 dirt yet i dont think you can upgrade to T3 at all. Cuz no corestone?

As for the question, there is no real benefit in having T2 or T3 drills on a T1 dirt. In general, the deeper you put your miners - the better. Bigger chunks, more value, more rare ores etc. T1 drills are limited to T1 dirt obv. So you want to upgrade your machines but you also want to put them as deep as possible.

To deter any trolls that gonna say "oh but he could use better pipes with better drills so more water pressure -> more speed -> more T1 crap". Trust me, not worth it.

I tend to disagree with the above sentiment, but, fairly early in the game when one is not producing enough Cloutium, I will place T1 Miners on T1 Dirt and T2 Miners on T2 Dirt. Once I find myself producing enough Cloutium, I'll upgrade my T1 Miners to T2 and save the T1 Miners for the next Mine Site I select. If I'm producing enough Cloutium to use T2 Miners from the get-go, I'll bring a stack of them to the new Site, but, since I like building from the bottom up (richer Dirt), it'll be a while before I get any Miners in place...

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Originally posted by Klandor:

I tend to disagree

So whats the disagreement? The question was is it worth to put T2/T3 equipment on a T1 dirt? The shortest answer is - no it isnt. Or you disagree with that?

If you are trying to say that you upgrade your T1 miners on T1 dirt with T2 miners on T1 dirt. Well, its not like you cant do it, you can. But this is imo even dumber because you cant just swap one drill with another. A) they use different types of pipes to work efficiently and B) because the intakes and outputs on the different drills do not match so you will need to reroute your whole pipe network to fit in T2 drills and also swap all the pipes for cloutium/corestone ones. Yea, nobody sane does that for T1 dirt.

[murlocgriswold]

i was manly wondering if output speed are size is higher im in the sideways mine and i have all the tier of drills set up i was just wondering if i should upgrade the tier 1 to tier 3

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Originally posted by murlocgriswold:

i was manly wondering if output speed are size is higher im in the sideways mine and i have all the tier of drills set up i was just wondering if i should upgrade the tier 1 to tier 3

Oh. Well technically it will speed up the output, but it wont improve the quality (or size) of materials. Only depth affects the quality (and size) of the chunks. So if you cant go any further, then sure you can upgrade previous tiers if you like.

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Even still, imo its not worth the trouble to mess around upgrading on T2/T1 dirt. If it was up to me, i would instead focus on optimising T3 stuff to produce even more. As such, i would put a pressure chamber on every single machine and would have tried to fit in as many drills as possible. For example, since you are in Icehelm, try stacking drills up on top of eachother at the back wall, where the richest layer is. That would be a much much more significant upgrade. Unless you already done that.

But otherwise, there is no right or wrong way to play this game. So you do you.

[Klandor]

When I built out Icehelm under v2.0.x, I used the whole mineable space from the bottom level up to the top-most space. I had a 2-level Mine with over 220 x T2 Miners from the front of the wall to the T3 layer at the back. The upper level ran from the left wall all the way to the right wall before dropping down onto the lower level, where I had my single Harvester/Sorter/Smelter/Gem Compressor set up along the rightmost wall. That was the only section of the mineable space that did not have Miners on it...

I plan to do the same thing with Icehelm, but more efficiently, since I've already done it once, but now I'll be able to work T3 Dirt and I have plans for that space...

[wizdmalegj]

There's no point. Will it work? Sure but each tier of soil has different value paydirt. If you're gonna use t3 stuff do it on t3 dirt. Also not sure if you know or not but you have to dig down in t1 dirt to get clouteum now. As for the mechanics. T1 stuff is maxed at a certain psi (the grey pipes). T2 is maxed at clouteum pipes. T3 is the new metal pipes. If you put t3 stuff on t1 dirt you get t1 profits with a slight boost since the psi is higher. Also if you use t3 machines on t1 pipes you get t1 speeds. The psi is only as high as the slowest part.