[New player] How to change the weight of items?

[Ajax]

I have a quest to make a certain weight of daggers, and I am unsure how to proceed.

[prtmh]

Do you have a scale to weigh items?
Do you have a saw to cut metal bars in half?
Do you have an anvil to make items that is placed down and not dropped?
Do you have a blacksmithing hammer?
Do you have a furnace that is also placed down and not dropped to heat the bars?

[Klandor]

To translate @prtmh's reply, you'll need the following, purchased from the Shop(s):

1. An Anvil
   
2. A Scale, placed on a flat surface (you may want to purchase a Concrete Platform, placed it slightly into the ground, and place the scale on top of it)
   
3. A Furnace
   
4. A Blacksmith Hammer
   
5. 5 x Smelters, plus necessary Sorter Conveyors
   
6. 5 x Gem Compressors, plus necessary Sorter Conveyors and a Gem Polisher Hook
   
7. A Logic Saw Hook with Logic Keypad
   
8. Optional: Order Board(s)

The Scale should be placed on a flat surface, such that you can see BOTH lines of numbers. The top number is the VALUE, the bottom number is the WEIGHT. Mostly, you're going to be looking at the Weight. You'll want all Ore delivered to Smelters, not Pans, with one Smelter for each type of Ore (Gold, Iron, Shard, Cloutium, and Corestone - note that Corestone and Cloutium will be VERY rare in T1 Dirt). Trigger the Smelter to get a Bar of Ore, take it to the Logic Saw Hook (needs to be installed on a Straight Conveyor - you'll want an additional Straight Conveyor to feed what is placed on it to the Logic Saw Hook), plug in the required weight (rounded up the next whole number) into the Logic Keypad, and toss the Bar onto the first Conveyor to feed it into the Logic Saw Hook. Toss the proper weight Bar into the Furnace naked (no Crucible). Assemble the other parts of the objects in a similar manner (Gems do not need to be heated like Ore Bars do). Set the Anvil to the appropriate Item. Then, in rapid order, pull the Bars out of the furnace by hand, and place them on the Anvil, IN THE CORRECT SPOTS, pick up the Blacksmith Hammer, and hit the Anvil to assemble the Irem. Then go deliver the resultant Item.

As noted, the appropriate materials MUST be placed in the correct spot. If you need a 10 weight Gold Pommel and a 75 weiight Iron Blade, then that means the Gold Bar MUST be placed in Spot 1 and the Iron Bar MUST be placed in Spot 2. They cannot be switched or your not making the requested Item.

Let us know if you have any questions, but please be detailed in your question.

[Captain Oveur]

I have two notes to add plus a clarification to the post above mine.

You do not need one crucible/smelter per ore type, but it is very helpful for both automation (less work for you) and performance (less work for your computer since you don’t have to dump 1000 ore all at once). The logic saw is not necessary (there’s a hand saw), but, again, very helpful. When you have a weight requirement, you can exceed the numbers as much as you want. The game also understands the concept of “close enough.” If the quest asks for 1.5 weight, then 1.48 will still work.

No numbers are lost when crafting/smelting. If you put 1.5 weight of ore into a crucible and turn it into an ingot, the ingot will weigh every bit of 1.5. If you craft it into a dagger, the dagger will weigh 1.5. The value, however, will only go up with each step of the process.

[Klandor]

Originally posted by Captain Oveur:

I have two notes to add plus a clarification to the post above mine.

You do not need one crucible/smelter per ore type, but it is very helpful for both automation (less work for you) and performance (less work for your computer since you don’t have to dump 1000 ore all at once). The logic saw is not necessary (there’s a hand saw), but, again, very helpful. When you have a weight requirement, you can exceed the numbers as much as you want. The game also understands the concept of “close enough.” If the quest asks for 1.5 weight, then 1.48 will still work.

No numbers are lost when crafting/smelting. If you put 1.5 weight of ore into a crucible and turn it into an ingot, the ingot will weigh every bit of 1.5. If you craft it into a dagger, the dagger will weigh 1.5. The value, however, will only go up with each step of the process.

Actually, 1.48 will NOT work for a needed 1.5 weight. A 1.6 with will work for 1.5 needed, but it must be equal to or greater than...

As to Smelters, it's not good to have 1k Ore Nuggets lying around, even if they're in a Pan. If you go to pick up that Pan, your FPS will take a BIG hit, even into unplayability realms, and pouring out that quantity of Ore Nuggets will be even worse. If you're mining that much Raw Ore, then the cost of said Smelter should not be out of reach, even to purchase 5 of them. Maybe in the Starter Plot (Ember Cradle on Bastion Island or Dawn Reach on Volcalidus Island) one could skip Cloutium and/or Corestone, but I'd DEFINITELY want a Smelter for Gold, Iron, and even Shards.

[Captain Oveur]

Originally posted by Klandor:

Actually, 1.48 will NOT work for a needed 1.5 weight. A 1.6 with will work for 1.5 needed, but it must be equal to or greater than...

Firsthand experience says that it will. Those are the actual numbers too that I used

As to Smelters, it's not good to have 1k Ore Nuggets lying around, even if they're in a Pan. If you go to pick up that Pan, your FPS will take a BIG hit, even into unplayability realms, and pouring out that quantity of Ore Nuggets will be even worse. If you're mining that much Raw Ore, then the cost of said Smelter should not be out of reach, even to purchase 5 of them. Maybe in the Starter Plot (Ember Cradle on Bastion Island or Dawn Reach on Volcalidus Island) one could skip Cloutium and/or Corestone, but I'd DEFINITELY want a Smelter for Gold, Iron, and even Shards.

That’s…pretty much what I was saying. LGIO would be proud of my messy accomplishments lol. At the time, I wasn’t even able to afford the pipe needed to run conveyor belts—much less could I afford the conveyor belts themselves! Well, I guess I could have if I had a better understanding of the game loop. I thought I was supposed to save my resources for something that needed a lot of it lol. Now that I do understand the game loop, I’m making like 200K+ each time I sell stuff

[Ajax]

Originally posted by prtmh:

Do you have a scale to weigh items?
Do you have a saw to cut metal bars in half?
Do you have an anvil to make items that is placed down and not dropped?
Do you have a blacksmithing hammer?
Do you have a furnace that is also placed down and not dropped to heat the bars?

yes

[Ajax]

Thank you everyone. I appreciate the support. I will go implement the advice given. Have a blessed day.