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Badstormer May 5, 2023 @ 12:09am
Conveyor splitters don't seem to be splitting.
I have a line of conveyor splitters, each with an item on the tray, and they have a 50/50 shot of correctly splitting off the requested item or just sending it forward. They also often split off the wrong item.

Is there some special way to set these up?
Originally posted by h_LordEC[no-VC]:
I have noticed a slight increase in weird splitter behavior in my new save that I just started a few days ago. I'm not sure if it is my setup or something with the recent patch.

If it is splitting 50/50(1 resource straight through and the next to the side) it likely isn't reading the resource in the tray.

If you have picked up the splitter that had a resource in the tray and placed it back down, you still need to pick up and replace the resource in the tray.

Precision placement of the resources in the tray is sometimes necessary. Ores and most of the gems are easy since there are usually only 1 resource per tray and most lie relatively flat and stay where you dropped them. Keep them close to the center so they aren't touching the edge of the tray and it should work fine.

The exceptions are the rubies and crystals, which tend to bounce at angles and roll when dropped. If you have trouble keeping those centered on the tray, I would suggest trying to use the precision placement by holding "E" with the resource in your hand.

Also note that if you save and quit while your drills/harvesters are running and you have dirt/resources moving on the belts, it will likely cause misses/issues the first few seconds when you load back into the save.

It has something to do with the syncing of the saved resource positions and the movement/momentum of the resources.

Most of the issues are significantly less than what was previously expected in prior game builds but it hasn't been completely solved yet.
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h_LordEC[no-VC] May 5, 2023 @ 12:27am 
I have noticed a slight increase in weird splitter behavior in my new save that I just started a few days ago. I'm not sure if it is my setup or something with the recent patch.

If it is splitting 50/50(1 resource straight through and the next to the side) it likely isn't reading the resource in the tray.

If you have picked up the splitter that had a resource in the tray and placed it back down, you still need to pick up and replace the resource in the tray.

Precision placement of the resources in the tray is sometimes necessary. Ores and most of the gems are easy since there are usually only 1 resource per tray and most lie relatively flat and stay where you dropped them. Keep them close to the center so they aren't touching the edge of the tray and it should work fine.

The exceptions are the rubies and crystals, which tend to bounce at angles and roll when dropped. If you have trouble keeping those centered on the tray, I would suggest trying to use the precision placement by holding "E" with the resource in your hand.

Also note that if you save and quit while your drills/harvesters are running and you have dirt/resources moving on the belts, it will likely cause misses/issues the first few seconds when you load back into the save.

It has something to do with the syncing of the saved resource positions and the movement/momentum of the resources.

Most of the issues are significantly less than what was previously expected in prior game builds but it hasn't been completely solved yet.
Last edited by h_LordEC[no-VC]; May 5, 2023 @ 12:28am
Badstormer May 5, 2023 @ 12:29am 
Originally posted by h_LordECno-VC:
If you have picked up the splitter that had a resource in the tray and placed it back down, you still need to pick up and replace the resource in the tray.

This is probably it. I've been picking up and placing down splitters with resources in them like a madman trying to organize what should be a basic line. Never occurred to me that I'd need to replace the resource.

Feels like this is a bug that is worth fixing.
Last edited by Badstormer; May 5, 2023 @ 12:29am
JoshTheCrusher02 May 5, 2023 @ 2:57am 
I have had the same problem whenever I go to the shops or drive around
Stu -1 May 5, 2023 @ 4:35am 
yeh i just wanted to agree with the previous comment. only splitter issues i've had are when i moved a splitter and didn't pick and and replace the ore on the tray.
Phoenix Cat May 5, 2023 @ 5:10am 
If I have any problems with the splitters, I usually have to pick up and replace the item I am sorting. Once I do that, they usually work just fine.
Klandor May 5, 2023 @ 5:43am 
Originally posted by JoshTheCrusher02:
I have had the same problem whenever I go to the shops or drive around
It's recommended to NEVER leave a Mine running if you're going out Shopping. It's not a big issue in early game where the Mine consists of up to about 3 or 4 Miners, but, once a Mine has been built out to any degree, there are known issues that can crop up. The quantity of Dirt/Raw Ore/Raw Gems/Polished Gems that can be on the Conveyors is asking for jams to occur. I'm only JUST starting to clear Dirt at my second Mine Site in my current Save and I NEVER leave my Mine running if I'm going away from it, even to the Jewelers or to Burncroft for a delivery. It's just too risky. ALWAYS turn off the Miners, run the Dirt/Raw Ore/Raw Gems through to Smelters/Gem Compressors, and then turn off the Water. I add into that making sure my Wrench Throwers on my Water Filters are topped off, too.
Phoenix Cat May 5, 2023 @ 6:22am 
Originally posted by Klandor:
Originally posted by JoshTheCrusher02:
I have had the same problem whenever I go to the shops or drive around
It's recommended to NEVER leave a Mine running if you're going out Shopping. It's not a big issue in early game where the Mine consists of up to about 3 or 4 Miners, but, once a Mine has been built out to any degree, there are known issues that can crop up. The quantity of Dirt/Raw Ore/Raw Gems/Polished Gems that can be on the Conveyors is asking for jams to occur. I'm only JUST starting to clear Dirt at my second Mine Site in my current Save and I NEVER leave my Mine running if I'm going away from it, even to the Jewelers or to Burncroft for a delivery. It's just too risky. ALWAYS turn off the Miners, run the Dirt/Raw Ore/Raw Gems through to Smelters/Gem Compressors, and then turn off the Water. I add into that making sure my Wrench Throwers on my Water Filters are topped off, too.

You are so right. I find if I leave my T1 site and farm to go to my T2 site, it jams everything up. Now i'm fine going shopping, it just seems to be when I go to another mine setup.
Sally May 5, 2023 @ 6:28am 
Originally posted by Badstormer:
Originally posted by h_LordECno-VC:
If you have picked up the splitter that had a resource in the tray and placed it back down, you still need to pick up and replace the resource in the tray.

This is probably it. I've been picking up and placing down splitters with resources in them like a madman trying to organize what should be a basic line. Never occurred to me that I'd need to replace the resource.

Feels like this is a bug that is worth fixing.

Just going to add, if the tray is empty, it will split the first resource it comes across and then 50/50 whatever comes next, it can cause some chaos.
but as mentioned, picking up and placing the resource on the tray again fixes the issue.
Zellnagi May 15, 2023 @ 12:06pm 
I found if you recently moved them or something they kinda break, picking up and dropping the item to sort does reset and fix the issue.
Badstormer May 15, 2023 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by Zellnagi:
I found if you recently moved them or something they kinda break, picking up and dropping the item to sort does reset and fix the issue.

It seems that when they are picked up, the item itself also needs to be replaced or it doesn't get registered.
Originally posted by Badstormer:
Originally posted by Zellnagi:
I found if you recently moved them or something they kinda break, picking up and dropping the item to sort does reset and fix the issue.

It seems that when they are picked up, the item itself also needs to be replaced or it doesn't get registered.


This!

Just started playing the game a few days ago and noticed my splitters weren't working correctly - Iron was being filtered in the Gold Splitter, etc. For some reason it turns out the iron Ore was bugged and wouldn't even be smelted down. Had to remove the iron in the tray, add another one - and it was good to go!
Klandor Mar 9 @ 8:50am 
Yeah, if one picks up a Sorting Conveyor with an object in the Tray and then put the Sorting Conveyor back down, the object to be sorted needs to be picked up and placed/dropped back on the tray. Doesn't always happen, but better safe than sorry.

If Raw Ore or other Bars are being sorted into Smelters and Ore goes into the wrong Smelter, it will not get Smelted as Smelted Ore doesn't mix. If one has just emptied a Smelter and another Ore ends up in the Smelter, then the original Ore will not get Smelted. That is by design.

Generally issues with Sorting are player error related, but an extended play session can introduce issues. Some of those issues can be resolved by Saving the game, returning to Main Menu, and reloading the Save, others require a Save and Quit to Desktop, and a few require action in the game (such as fixing Sorters). Also note that placing a Raw Ore Nugget will only sort Raw Ore Nuggets. For example, if one is sorting Iron into a specific Smelter and wants to send ALL Iron there (Raw Nugget AND Iron Bars), one must place both a Raw Iron Nugget AND an Iron Bar on the Sorting Tray. I generally will cut a 1 Weight X Bar (X being whatever Ore is involved) for this purpose, as I frequently toss the unused portion of a Bar back onto the Conveyors, after pulling it out of the Smelter to cut a specific weight off for construction...
Originally posted by Badstormer:
Originally posted by h_LordECno-VC:
If you have picked up the splitter that had a resource in the tray and placed it back down, you still need to pick up and replace the resource in the tray.

This is probably it. I've been picking up and placing down splitters with resources in them like a madman trying to organize what should be a basic line. Never occurred to me that I'd need to replace the resource.

Feels like this is a bug that is worth fixing.

It's a user created bug. The reason this happens to new players is because they grab the magnet stick and grab up stuff with it and rub them all over the sorting tray in the process. In other words, you overloaded and broke it. This is not on the devs, this is on your greed to salvage a few clumps you spilled on the floor instead of using delete raw resources.

If you insist on magneting messes, be aware of the splitter tray and don't drag things over it. And this also holds true for the hand sorter. Use the magnet with care, not wanton chaos
Originally posted by roboticaust:
Originally posted by Badstormer:

This is probably it. I've been picking up and placing down splitters with resources in them like a madman trying to organize what should be a basic line. Never occurred to me that I'd need to replace the resource.

Feels like this is a bug that is worth fixing.

It's a user created bug. The reason this happens to new players is because they grab the magnet stick and grab up stuff with it and rub them all over the sorting tray in the process. In other words, you overloaded and broke it. This is not on the devs, this is on your greed to salvage a few clumps you spilled on the floor instead of using delete raw resources.

If you insist on magneting messes, be aware of the splitter tray and don't drag things over it. And this also holds true for the hand sorter. Use the magnet with care, not wanton chaos
Setting the pedantic and condescending tone aside, any user behavior that leads to unexpected breakage of game mechanics can be classified as bug regardless of the motives behind that behavior (in other words, any bug is a "user created bug" depending on your perspective on it.)

Given this thread was dormant for two years up until a few days ago, I can't remember the specifics of the sorting logic or the issue I had with it, but if more than a few people are having this issue, I'd sooner call it a bug than an issue of "greed".
prtmh Mar 10 @ 9:05am 
Ouch, Too bad we can't grow some Aloe vera on the farm. :)
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