How does the gem compressor work now?

[casperorillian]

The old gem compressor has gone and been replaced with this little weird one. I am curious as to how its supposed to work as the older one that just compressed everything that went into it is definatly a lot easier.

[Alucard †]

Sort of like a logic smelter.
Accepts only one kind of gem.
Processes it while its active.
You retrieve the gem from it when you apply logic (via lever for example) or cut the water supply to it.

[d4Rossi]

Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

Sort of like a logic smelter.
Accepts only one kind of gem.
Processes it while its active.
You retrieve the gem from it when you apply logic (via lever for example) or cut the water supply to it.

No logic required
just drop sorted Gems inside ( still needs water to operate)
compressing starts on each single drop .
If lid is closed you can still pickup compressed gems through.
Hitbox of the Gem appears if you hoover your mouse top of the compressor.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by d4Rossi:

Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

Sort of like a logic smelter.
Accepts only one kind of gem.
Processes it while its active.
You retrieve the gem from it when you apply logic (via lever for example) or cut the water supply to it.

No logic required
just drop sorted Gems inside ( still needs water to operate)
compressing starts on each single drop .
If lid is closed you can still pickup compressed gems through.
Hitbox of the Gem appears if you hoover your mouse top of the compressor.

Good to know.

[KingThrillgore]

So if I dump in all different types of gems it won't compress? This sucks, I want the old compressor back.

[casperorillian]

Originally posted by KingThrillgore:

So if I dump in all different types of gems it won't compress? This sucks, I want the old compressor back.

Same here, this adds like 5 extra machines to my system for totally no benefit, makes no sense to me to have this.

[Klandor]

I consider the NEW Gem Compressor an upgrade. While one may need a slightly longer space for 4 Sorter/Splitters and 4 Gem Compressors to get all the Gems handled, NO Logic Circuitry is needed and Chunk Count is kept down because EVERY SINGLE GEM gets compressed as it arrives at the Gem Compressor. This is a big plus for me, as the Logic Circuitry is fairly complex and a PITA to configure correctly.

This will definitely help large Mines, as the Polished Gem Count should hover between 4 and, maybe, 10 to 20, verses several hundred Gems dropped in a Gem Compressor that gets operated every "X" Gems or "Y" weight of Gems. Add in the Teleporter MOD, made by ItchyBeard (one of the Dev's), scattered around the Mine, and the chunk count can be further dropped significantly as it doesn't have to travel the length of the Conveyors, but rather all Dirt can be jumped to near the Harvester at Intermittent parts of the Conveyor... This ALL should be a great QoL improvement, as the number of Dirt Clumps, Nuggets, Raw Gems and Polished Gems are the biggest hits to FPS in the game.

[unknownjedi112]

I agree that the old gem processor was better. Is this more realistic, sure, but I still liked the old one better. It was convenient.

[Cpt Hayes]

Old compressor was very space-efficient. Would rather the new compressor had the logic connection opposite the water intake so I could put them side by side without needing to waste space on the line for the lever connection. Honestly i think I'll just keep an eye out for a mod that adds the old compressor back.

[Klandor]

No Logic Connection is needed with the new Gem Compressor. With the new Gem Compressor, so long as Water is supplied, each time a Gem arrives into the Compressor, it activates, and any following Polished Gems drop in and immediately get compressed. This means that the ONLY chunk count that Gems are adding is the 4 Gems in each Compressor, plus the Raw Gems and Polished Gems on the Conveyor between the Harvester and the Gem Compressor. From MY point of view, this is a win as I do not need to monitor and manually activate the Gem Compressor to limit the lag that occurs during Compression.

[Alucard †]

Yea i also don't like how space inefficient it is.

Need 4 of these plus additional sorter hooks , more conveyors and make sure the gems are dropped from 1 tile height into it so they don't get stuck on the edges.

And either wire in logic or cut water power to open the compressors up (tho you can grab gems through closed lid if you hover your mouse in specific way where the gem is but i find that a bit janky)

Sure its amazing for performance but i wish both of these were kept.

Like Smelter and Logic smelter i wish there was Old compressor (renamed to Manual Compressor and removed logic socket) and the new Logic compressor.

Eat cake and have cake.

[mystickneon]

From an automation point of view, where does the gems exit the compressor? Do they fall out of the bottom?

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by mystickneon:

From an automation point of view, where does the gems exit the compressor? Do they fall out of the bottom?

It doesn't exit from anywhere.
You just turn it on or off with the logic (turning it off opens the lid so you can pull out the gems out of it)

If you want more automation and want your gems to go somewhere after they get compressed you gonna have to use magnets and make a circuit that times the magnets with the compressors inactivity phase.

[casperorillian]

Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

It doesn't exit from anywhere.
You just turn it on or off with the logic (turning it off opens the lid so you can pull out the gems out of it).

That basically negates any point of automating it then.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by casperorillian:

Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

It doesn't exit from anywhere.
You just turn it on or off with the logic (turning it off opens the lid so you can pull out the gems out of it).

That basically negates any point of automating it then.

Not really.

In fact the new compressor is better automated than old one.

It compresses gems automatically instead manually like old compressor did and they can be pulled out with logic magnets easily due to shape of the new compressor - If you really want to go the extra mile to make the gems go somewhere after they are already compressed.

As i stated in rest of my post.

[Klandor]

In my opinion, unless trying to get a Gem of a SPECIFIC weight, just leave the Gem in the Gem Compressor. Each new Gem that comes along will just get added to the previous Gem, so you only have a SINGLE Gem sitting in each of the 4 Gem Compressors at any point in time (assuming each Gem Compressor is supplied with Water Pressure). I like the new Gem Compressor for this reason, as I do not have a single Gem Compressor with up to 404-ish Gems in it sitting around only for the Game to lag out when the Gem Compressor activates after 400 new Gems have dropped into it...