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m@x Sep 17, 2020 @ 4:48am
Why the green dot for dropping?
I thought I'd like this game a lot but I have to confess - I find manipulating the World just too clunky and irritating. I salute the dev for creating something of this calibre but I can't help but wonder - why the 'dual cursor', i.e. the naff green dot for dropping, why not just drop things where you are pointing your main cursor - i.e. it will drop/land where you point.

To me, the current setup makes the game an unsatisfying chore and I'm sad about that.

Am I the only one?
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m@x Sep 17, 2020 @ 4:50am 
Also - how hard would it be to be able to exchange what you are holding, instead of having to drop an item to pick up another? Simple things but for me, interacting with objects should be quick, intuitive and simple... this, it is not, currently.
Prack Sep 17, 2020 @ 9:54am 
I personally love the green cursor. if you have a small pile of stuff to move onto a pallet or into a smelter, then you can stand in a position that has the green cursor where you want things to drop while looking at what you need to pickup. pickup, drop, pickup, drop all without having to worry where the stuff is dropping.
If you pick something up it's floating next to you, dropping it just releases it. the green cursor just shows where it will drop which makes more sense than having it suddenly move to your cursor
LordNicky235 Sep 17, 2020 @ 4:19pm 
The green cursor is where you would drop something in real life. if you hold e for a little bit, you can hold something in front of you and drop it.
Consider that when you have a pan *full* of nuggets and you're sorting them by hand, having to click one, turn to the next pan, click again, turn back, repeat, will get significantly more tedious. Having a drop location offset from the center means you can set two pans next to each other, look at say an iron nugget, and then quickly pick it up and immediately drop it without moving, confident that it will drop in your pan that you've lined up. It makes sorting through piles of material much, much faster and significantly less tedious. It does take a bit of time to get used to, but it does make the game much easier to play once you realize how you can utilize it.
Kaeru Gaman Sep 17, 2020 @ 7:29pm 
the interacting is quick, intuitive and simple. honestly this is one of the most brilliantly sophisticated games I played. the machanisms are close to minimalism, and so is the design, wich for one of very few cases seems not to be low-poly confectionware.
the developer seems to be an artist of the keep-it-simple way and he saw it through.
m@x Sep 18, 2020 @ 12:42pm 
I appreciate everybody's reply. Maybe I just need to stick with it until it becomes intuitive.

I for example find it annoying to have to be above the smelter pot to drop stuff in, means I have to jump on the forge.

I will stick with it, see if it clicks for me. I like the game and premise...

Werwolf Sep 18, 2020 @ 6:05pm 
For me Ibiza, I just had to find a reason for it. The biggest reason are what other people mentioned above, especially when it comes to sorting. Once you learn to utilize that offset, especially while sorting nuggets or say, dropping them into your smelter out of a pan, it starts to make more sense.
Kaeru Gaman Sep 19, 2020 @ 12:03am 
I didn't work with the big smelter so far, but I would try the following approach:
hold a bucket with some nuggets in your hand, hold E to hold them away from you, locate the bucket above the smelter and press LMB to empty it into the smelter.
don't know if this works, with the crucible (small melting pot) it does not, I always throw half of the nuggets besides it.
but I can put the crucible on the small furnace and then put the nuggets inside it when standing aside it and turning a bit to the crucible until it is on the right half of the screen. when I drop the nugget then, it directly falls into the crucible and melts immediately.
maybe with the big smelter you can find a similar position? you don't need to see the green dot, you just need your target between the nugget you hold and the place where the green dot is on the floor beside you.
Originally posted by 🅼🅰🆇 ɪʙɪᴢᴀ:
I appreciate everybody's reply. Maybe I just need to stick with it until it becomes intuitive.

I for example find it annoying to have to be above the smelter pot to drop stuff in, means I have to jump on the forge.

I will stick with it, see if it clicks for me. I like the game and premise...
A lot of items in the game sort of phase through each other? You can basically force your pan inside the smelter and dump it directly in, if you'd like. Also, when pouring a pan of materials into another container, offset your drop cursor a little towards the rear so all of your mats fall inside as they roll forwards. :D Good luck, happy mining!
m@x Sep 19, 2020 @ 6:06am 
Thanks for the feedback guys. You are all probably right. I just need to embrace the mechanics :)
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