Fault and Predecessor or the same game HOW!?

[Saica-Fox]

They are the same game paragon 2 companies selling the same game how is that possible

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Originally posted by Saica-Fox:

yeah idk which ones will be better cuz they all the same

well yes, but actually no

Different rosters, different/tweaked hero abilities - including passives, different item systems and different individual items, different maps, different balancing, different game speed and hero speed, different graphics, netcode, should i go on?

It's obvious that you did not play them both (from your initial post even) so i'd argue that your claim that "they all the same" isn't really founded on anything but some pictures you saw and some stuff a random person on the internet said.

Watch full gameplay of both games and you'll see the difference like night and day.

Like, actually DO it. Go out and SPEND TIME RESEARCHING before going out and making claims out of your bum.

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Originally posted by Joshy:

Dude please go read literally any other thread here. They released the Models and SOME animations to work with, you have to code the Gameplay,Items even Abilities again from Scratch they have to write a netcode for online and party play setup and maintain the server and balance it. Go ahead and google OverPrime vs Fault and watch any vid from BritikHD. You'll soon realize that what youre writing is not only disrespectful but also totally ignorant to the developing process of games.

u right !!!

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Originally posted by CblP-0|0y0|0E/\:

image if overprime was pushed in ea steam!!

fault gameplay is actually smoother and alot more clear than Overprime

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Originally posted by MrDriman:

It's stupid and will not work out xD
This Games will be dead so fast because all this Games will be half done trashgames

i dont know what u smoke early in your day !!!! maybe dont u know actually 90% of people have choice fault lmao . Overprime is already dead the server shouldshutdown queu time average 45 minutes lmao in fault u will never wait more than 10 secondes and pred ruining themself not giving enough of testing key !!! Fault is actualy the big big BIG winner by far

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Originally posted by TwitchSonnolo🤟🏼:

Ho noooo fault fanboy hurted......blame op servers because game are Just in alpha Hahaha nice fault playerdrop from 4000 to 700 and go down down down refund Is real 🤟

Predecessor Fanboi much? At Fault launch, half of the worlds internet was down due to cloudflare issues. Playerbase is more like a stable 1400. First day launch numbers are nearly ALWAYS the highest, which is to be expected.

Your attempts at creating arguments to shame an upfront honest EA release title are pathetic. If you feel like you have to troll, at least put some effort into it.

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Originally posted by TwitchSonnolo🤟🏼:

hahahaha poor noob i never play predesessor another fault moneygrab fanboy trolling hate fail <3

>trolling hate fail

you pretty much precisely described your entire existence there

One (in fact several) serious question(s) tho: what does trolling GIVE you? What benefit do you gain? Does it make you feel less lonely in your closet? Do you think other people feel intimidated by some random dude on the internet throwing insults around? Is it fun? Do you have so little fun, is your life so miserable that you feel the need to try and make others feel miserable, too? Is this some kind of compensation or am i thinking too much into this and you're just an idiot?!

[edit] I just had a peek into your stream. You look like a nice guy and don't seem too toxic (judging by the few minutes i watched). So this further makes me wonder: why do you have to act like a ♥♥♥♥ here? I really don't understand. You're clearly an adult (apparently 42) but at the same time act like a little child here. ...just WHY? Is a normal conversation really too much to ask from a 42 year adult?

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Originally posted by TwitchSonnolo🤟🏼:

Hoooo now fault fanboy know other people existence woooooooooooow....Cry a river pls

Boring. Can u at least TRY trolling? You're not even trying mate. You're neighter funny nor annoying. You're just embarrassing yourself, you 42 year old manchild.

[Saica-Fox]

i just wonder how the games will be different u know

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Originally posted by Saica-Fox:

i just wonder how the games will be different u know

Every Paragon project handles the heroes, abilities, map, stats, mechanics and basically everything else differently. So if i would count all the differences i'll be still sitting here tomorrow.

To give just 4 examples:

1: In one of the remakes the team decided to re-implement the old "travel mode" system from early Paragon versions. The other remake projects (like Fault) don't have that.

2: The map is different in every remake project so far. The balance between old Legacy and new Monolith map is different with every remake project, especially the one with travel mode.

3: The item shop, item system and individual items are different in every remake project. Some use the old card system, some use a DotA/LoL-esque item shop, but individual items are all different across the remakes.

4: Every Project has their own hero reworks, Fault for example added a passive skill/effect to every hero and also took abilities from various updates/versions of Paragon to create the current kit. Steels kit for example is a hybrid of what he had over multiple different updates in Paragon, taking the best he ever had to offer at any period in time.

And then also general stuff like tower/minion balance, which in turn influences gamespeed etc etc etc

[notmyfault]

i wonder why Fault devs will pay for good reviews and delete bad ones
next i wonder why there so many fault names play OP and leave active games or dodgeing draft all times
everything will find the way out and community still watching al this wonders and its no good pr for Fault to doing things like this.
if there wherent such idiots they had done theyr work together with other devs of other games that know a lot more of pramming a game

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Originally posted by Tacki van Tack:

i wonder why Fault devs will pay for good reviews and delete bad ones
next i wonder why there so many fault names play OP and leave active games or dodgeing draft all times
everything will find the way out and community still watching al this wonders and its no good pr for Fault to doing things like this.
if there wherent such idiots they had done theyr work together with other devs of other games that know a lot more of pramming a game

Do you have ANY proof that they are paying for positive reviews? This sounds like prime talk of the many trolls and salty people that are present around Fault at the moment. Back up your claims or keep them to yourself.

For deleting negative reviews, a while ago Steam started to combat review bombings in general. Fault got review bombed - i'm not speaking about legit negative reviews, i'm speaking about the dozens of troll reviews that were/are still present. Troll reviews add nothing of value, so they should be deleted anyway.

If you mean Overprime with OP, it's pretty obvious. They are Paragon fans and play multiple projects, as long as they are all still going. Seems reasonable to me.

Game leaving and draft dodging as well as playing other games has nothing to do with the devs of this game tho.

Lastly to the point about the different projects teaming up: This has been said a hundred times already, the reason why there are multiple projects in the first place is that different dev teams have different visions for the game. They all want to create THEIR best version of Paragon. The fanbase was split even in OG Paragon times, so it's natural that different people have different visions for recreating "the best Paragon".

(Also, just saw that you're friends with one of the review trolls, his troll review is still up btw and he's still crying on the forums and under other reviews, no deletion or ban.)

[notmyfault]

yayaya always it any other. now u say steam removes this reviews jea nice

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Originally posted by Tacki van Tack:

yayaya always it any other. now u say steam removes this reviews jea nice

Use your tiny troll fingers to google it, takes only like 5 seconds. Here, just one of the many articles on the subject https://gamerant.com/steam-review-bombing/

[edit] and anther one
https://www.slashgear.com/valve-will-fight-review-bombing-on-steam-by-hiding-off-topic-reviews-16569926/

and another one
https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/15/18267821/valve-steam-review-bombing-policy-remove-score-count-moderation

and another one
https://www.polygon.com/2020/2/6/21126787/steam-review-bombs-policy-effectiveness-valve

aaaaand another one
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/03/15/valve-to-remove-off-topic-review-bombs-from-steam-user-scores/

and for good measurement, guess what, another one
https://kotaku.com/valve-says-it-will-remove-off-topic-review-bombs-from-s-1833332643

Also, very nice of you to just adress one of my responses, i guess the silence towards the others means i'm right?! And while we're at it, where is your proof that they pay for positive reviews?

[notmyfault]

But what have bad reviews to do with trolling. They hyped a game with cinematic trailer and say its ingame,lot of people buy EA and on steam,and then u see a game wich is far away from an EA because of gfx compression bugs for example... And then u will call all these peoples trolls bevause they pissed off because they get only high definition content for preview but this trash of code ?
Maybe they do a lil bit to much of polish theyr state of game, thats why people go mad,it looks like they only hype and release to melk a cashcow.

[notmyfault]

Why they didnt show the real state of game? not videos and pics that rendering for hours?that was a huge fail