Talisman + Shadow core FARMING Guide!

[passion_london]

https://imgur.com/a/9ff2Zin

1. Talisman are needed for huge boosts to damage, mana, mana farms, kills, high levels and everything ingame. Very important.
2. Shadow cores are needed to upgrade and change shapes of the above, Talisman. Very important.

* the above image shows Map A1, 2800+ cores per 3 minutes, 2 to 4 Talisman of 55+ quality.

Map setup* I have all the towers set on special and 99% of the specials are covered. Amps remain level 5. ONLY middle tower goes to 9 rest remain at 8 and is enough.

Skills setup* with skills 50 on seeker sense means more cores. it was around 45 x 5 min games to open all my trait tiles and also collect Talisman. only use yellow.

Traits setup* only change either top left adaptive carapace to 10 or giant domination to 10. else 12 everywhere you can handel.

* please note i am wizard level 600 and starting mana with the above setup is 45k hense i cant go for more traits or i will be dead.

** above gives you 2800 and 3 Talisman per 5 mins. best farm i know.

** the map setup is 90% same as the previous person who shared the image with us of this farm. HOWEVER i wanted a 20 second setup.

Thanks.

[Marosh]

Can confirm as shown

Here (WL300+, up to 55-100(+10) rarity, 3-5min clear time)
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1106530/discussions/0/1737761954044562163/?tscn=1579907331

and here (WL5000+, 60-100(+10) rarity, 50s clear time)
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1106530/discussions/0/1737761954044562163/?tscn=1580321133

But, how do you deal with shadows, that appear behind your front line? The gem range is not enough at this gem grade. Even I can't cover the whole map with just this tower setup. Is this, why you don't use Corrupted Banishment?

[passion_london]

i dont use that as i cant handel it as sawms get through. if they do i dont think i can kill them.

[Marosh]

Originally posted by passion_london:

i dont use that as i cant handel it as sawms get through. if they do i dont think i can kill them.

Ah ok. But that's why i had the walls (first link). Yes, it takes a little longer, but the rarity increase is worth it in a long shot.

Also, I wouldn't recommend A4 for core farming. Only for fragments.
If you want really fast cores at this WL, go to W1 Journey. Set only Ritual to 12, max Seeker Sense, put a lot into Demolition and a few points in Armor Tearing. Nothing else
Call all Waves and bomb all the mobs with a G5 or G6 Armor gem away. Make sure, you have enough starting mana. So in doubt, don't max the skills. Takes ~20seconds for 1000-3000 cores. After unlocking the whole talisman, you get way to many cores even without Seeker Sense. So W1 Journey would be a one time thing. (I've bunked 1.5 millions over the time)

If you split Core and Fragment farm, you could get rid of Seeker Sense for A4. You have way more starting mana, even if you up one or two skills, could buy higher starting gems and you can handle a higher trait setup or speed up your run by calling waves earlier.

Strenght in Numbers is the next trait, you should take. The armor is minimal compared to their natural armor. Just hover over wave 60 or 80 and look at the numbers.

The rough idea of what you say is definitly true.

[Gulch]

Originally posted by blauer153:

put a lot into Demolition and a few points in Armor Tearing. Nothing else

Gem bombing is the best way on W1 Journey? Or is it because it's just faster than a tower?

[sresk]

Originally posted by PolarBear:

You are the LAST person anyone should be taking advice from. You refuse to take good advice from anyone else, then you sloppily rip off someone else, make it MUCH worse, and try to call it a guide?

Lol thank you! Honestly this passion London guy needs to be banned from this forum.

[Marosh]

Originally posted by Gulch:

Originally posted by blauer153:

put a lot into Demolition and a few points in Armor Tearing. Nothing else

Gem bombing is the best way on W1 Journey? Or is it because it's just faster than a tower?

If I didn't miss a nerf, yes. You just need just enough mana for a few G5 or G6 armor gems (That's why you might want to sacrifice Skill level for more starting mana). And even if you don't kill everything, the core gain is good.
Just keep in mind, gem bomb dmg is shared with all mobs in range. So if you target a shadow, make sure that ONLY this one shadow is in range.
Sometimes a spectre, the "white spectre" or other shadows are in the way. Pause the game, if you see a target and bomb away.

Shadows need a G6 bomb. Both spectres and that thing, that flies in circles a G4 or G5, Spires a few G1 or G2, the Guardian G2/G3 and the normal mobs G1/G2. So Shadows are the expensive ones.
:)

[Azzy]

...are you wanting $10 for this? I don't see any videos and only one picture. You promised pictures (multiple), video, and text!

[Laskoran]

Originally posted by blauer153:

Originally posted by passion_london:

Also, I wouldn't recommend A4 for core farming. Only for fragments.
If you want really fast cores at this WL, go to W1 Journey. Set only Ritual to 12, max Seeker Sense, put a lot into Demolition and a few points in Armor Tearing. Nothing else
Call all Waves and bomb all the mobs with a G5 or G6 Armor gem away. Make sure, you have enough starting mana. So in doubt, don't max the skills. Takes ~20seconds for 1000-3000 cores. After unlocking the whole talisman, you get way to many cores even without Seeker Sense. So W1 Journey would be a one time thing. (I've bunked 1.5 millions over the time)

How do you end up with so many cores? Is the wealthy mod needed? (which I can't access yet, since I don't have the needed achievements unlocked).
At WL ~200 I manage to have about 18000 starting mana, allowing me to throw about 4 level 5 gembombs. Can't manage to get more than 200 cores out of this. Anything I am missing?

[fractalgem]

Laskoran, the key part here is the Ritual trait.

If you have that and max it out, you don't even need seeker sense to get about 300-500 cores if you kill all the shadows etc.

With the seeker sense skill, that goes up to 1000 to 2000 cores.

Expect to deal with several shadows on the screen at once.

[Laskoran]

Originally posted by fractalgem:

Laskoran, the key part here is the Ritual trait.

If you have that and max it out, you don't even need seeker sense to get about 300-500 cores if you kill all the shadows etc.

With the seeker sense skill, that goes up to 1000 to 2000 cores.

Expect to deal with several shadows on the screen at once.

Yeah, I got that one already active, but can't see a way to get rid of those by gem bombing at my current level (not even close).
So I think blauers guide needs a far higher level.

[Critaa]

Originally posted by Laskoran:

Originally posted by fractalgem:

Laskoran, the key part here is the Ritual trait.

If you have that and max it out, you don't even need seeker sense to get about 300-500 cores if you kill all the shadows etc.

With the seeker sense skill, that goes up to 1000 to 2000 cores.

Expect to deal with several shadows on the screen at once.

Yeah, I got that one already active, but can't see a way to get rid of those by gem bombing at my current level (not even close).
So I think blauers guide needs a far higher level.

I needed min. Grade 6 for gembombing in W1...before that i used 1 tower with 4 Amps and then relocate the killgem for shadows

[Marosh]

Originally posted by Laskoran:

Originally posted by fractalgem:

Laskoran, the key part here is the Ritual trait.

If you have that and max it out, you don't even need seeker sense to get about 300-500 cores if you kill all the shadows etc.

With the seeker sense skill, that goes up to 1000 to 2000 cores.

Expect to deal with several shadows on the screen at once.

Yeah, I got that one already active, but can't see a way to get rid of those by gem bombing at my current level (not even close).
So I think blauers guide needs a far higher level.

What's your WL? I did that after I was almost done with the story. A lot of factors are to consider. Did you pay attention for the fragment (row-)bonuses, so you have more % initial mana? Have your fragments + initial mana? Achievements? Achievement reset? Do you leave most of your Skillpoints unspend? And more. All you really need is mana for it.

My suggestion is not a guide, just an alternative. I mean, if you can pull of the fragment+core farm described here, you also are ready for W1 bombing. :)

Really low WL, W1 with tower and amp, like Critaa said, is better.

[Laskoran]

Originally posted by blauer153:

Originally posted by Laskoran:

Yeah, I got that one already active, but can't see a way to get rid of those by gem bombing at my current level (not even close).
So I think blauers guide needs a far higher level.

What's your WL? I did that after I was almost done with the story. A lot of factors are to consider. Did you pay attention for the fragment (row-)bonuses, so you have more % initial mana? Have your fragments + initial mana? Achievements? Achievement reset? Do you leave most of your Skillpoints unspend? And more. All you really need is mana for it.

My suggestion is not a guide, just an alternative. I mean, if you can pull of the fragment+core farm described here, you also are ready for W1 bombing. :)

Really low WL, W1 with tower and amp, like Critaa said, is better.

Hi,

yeah I got about 18000 initial mana (150% bonus, ~400 mana per wave, only 40 points in Seeker Sense). Story done, WL 204, achievements already reset. But that lets me throw 3 G6 bombs and that is by far not enough.

So currently going with buying a single G7 yellow that I keep resocketing around the map, lets me gain ~400 cores, but takes a good amount of time and I am not able to kill everything before I am overwhelmed. So more grinding needed first ;)

[fractalgem]

Originally posted by Laskoran:

Originally posted by fractalgem:

Laskoran, the key part here is the Ritual trait.

If you have that and max it out, you don't even need seeker sense to get about 300-500 cores if you kill all the shadows etc.

With the seeker sense skill, that goes up to 1000 to 2000 cores.

Expect to deal with several shadows on the screen at once.

Yeah, I got that one already active, but can't see a way to get rid of those by gem bombing at my current level (not even close).
So I think blauers guide needs a far higher level.

Ah.

Set up a few towers instead of gem bombing them, if you don't have enough mana and bomb power for the bombing method.

Don't put any traits other than ritual, and use your freeze and strike spells to take out the shadows.