Yakuza 0 is harder to 100% than Yakuza 5

[Gabis]

I hear a lot of people saying that Y5 is the hardest game to 100% in Yakuza series, but I think that title should go for Y0.

Yes, there might be more activities to do in Y5 and it can get confusing between 5 different characters and cities, but nonetheless these activities are not that hard to complete, especially when most of them can be skipped by using cheat items. Unlike in Y0, they can not be skipped, so it takes way more time to complete them, especially if Y0 is your 1st game you trying to 100%.

In Y0, most of the players will probably spend majority of the hours trying to learn mahjong, unlike in other games where you can use a cheat item to skip it, or you will already know how to play mahjong so the completion will be way easier.

Lets not forget Mr. Shakedown too. Another thing what makes Y0 harder is that you can not play Legend difficulty with a NG+ save file.

Even if I am familiar with the Yakuza games now and if I wanted to 100% Y0 again, I think I would struggle with it way more than with Y5.

What do you think?

[kirbo]

I disagree, having had 0 as my first game in the franchise and that I 100% (having done all up until 6 and currently playing 7).

Sure, just as you say, mahjong takes a bit to learn, but if the player in question has a liking to it then it becomes less tedious, I can definitely attest to this.

0 simply has a lot of activities and a lot of thing to do on each of them, 5 has less variety of achievables per activity/minigame but has a good number, spread over 5 cities. For me personally the coliseum was a nightmare, specially since I had chosen Hard as my difficulty (i ended up lowering it via hex editing for Akiyama). In hindsight 0's requirements aren't all insanely bad from what I remember.

Combat in 0 is easy, you just spam Beast or Breaker and you win. I had zero trouble not being able to carry my completed file for my premium adventure run, I just used all the money from chapter clears into those 2 styles and that's all it took.

It also took me way more time to complete 5 than 0, so yeah, all my points go to 5.

[Lar Dass]

Only the gambling minigames are harder to complete in 0 because you need to get specific stuff done instead of just make a certain amount of money. But 5 is FAR longer overall despite the fact it took me 50 more hours to beat 0, that was purely cuz i didnt optimise my playthrough to get multiple stuff done while playing the story

[MoH [JoinUsInVR]]

Jesus Christ I forgot about the save scumming I had to do in 0 for completion. Reading this was like someone breaking the glass that was keeping you from remembering your trauma.

100% agree, though both games have a special game in my heart.

[kirbo]

Originally posted by MoH JoinUsInVR:

Jesus Christ I forgot about the save scumming I had to do in 0 for completion. Reading this was like someone breaking the glass that was keeping you from remembering your trauma.

100% agree, though both games have a special game in my heart.

do you mean for the catfighting arena? that one was really bs tbh, but then again, just annoying, not hard

[MoH [JoinUsInVR]]

Originally posted by kirbo:

Originally posted by MoH JoinUsInVR:

Jesus Christ I forgot about the save scumming I had to do in 0 for completion. Reading this was like someone breaking the glass that was keeping you from remembering your trauma.

100% agree, though both games have a special game in my heart.

do you mean for the catfighting arena? that one was really bs tbh, but then again, just annoying, not hard

Nah, mahjong. I hate mahjong dude.

[Gabis]

Originally posted by MoH JoinUsInVR:

Originally posted by kirbo:

do you mean for the catfighting arena? that one was really bs tbh, but then again, just annoying, not hard

Nah, mahjong. I hate mahjong dude.

Lmao, I hated it too, until Yakuza Kiwami 2, I started to love it after getting the hang of it. And now I have over 100 hours on one of the mahjong games. I swear it's fun once you understand some of it and can play by yourself.

[MoH [JoinUsInVR]]

Originally posted by Gabis:

Originally posted by MoH JoinUsInVR:

Nah, mahjong. I hate mahjong dude.

Lmao, I hated it too, until Yakuza Kiwami 2, I started to love it after getting the hang of it. And now I have over 100 hours on one of the mahjong games. I swear it's fun once you understand some of it and can play by yourself.

Only time I liked Mahjong was while watching Kung-Fu Mahjong[www.dailymotion.com].

[kirbo]

Originally posted by MoH JoinUsInVR:

Nah, mahjong. I hate mahjong dude.

hmm, i get it but why save scum for mahjong? i did have to play for a good amount of time but save scumming was never a thought, the completion thing are just a matter of performing them eventually

[MoH [JoinUsInVR]]

Originally posted by kirbo:

Originally posted by MoH JoinUsInVR:

Nah, mahjong. I hate mahjong dude.

hmm, i get it but why save scum for mahjong? i did have to play for a good amount of time but save scumming was never a thought, the completion thing are just a matter of performing them eventually

I doesn't like wasting money.
I also employed a little trick called, "If I don't win or things don't fall into a winning thing immediately, I quit and reload".
The amount of patience I have for gambling in this game is right up there with a drunken father from Missouri.