why does everyone like akiyama so much?

[Edwardlloyd]

lol he did nothing entire game. his story is also the least interesting. he only has his fighting style going for him. people saying akiyama>majima in reviews wtf? he is nowhere near as cool and gripping as Y0 majima.

enjoyed beating his smug ass as kiryu without taking any damage lol ez

also the plot of this game is the worst i think. let's see 5 next

[Punished Rusty Shackleford]

when they made 4 initially, the producers/writers knew that they would be rinse and repeating if Kiyru or Majima were the vocal point of the future games. So create 2 new characters within the universe and hope one of them takes off. Akiyama happened to be the the one took off. Possibly because he isn't a try hard cool guy because Majima is pretty much a meme character now. He was solid in 0 thru 2 but he's now a captain of the Tojo clan so he has to mature and lost his edge.

I think 3 is the worst plot and the producers agree by not even acknowledging the events of Y3 in the future games from 5 onward. Also that substory in Kiwami 2 where there is a self insert of the producer saying 3 wasn't that great.

[JimmyT]

Originally posted by Kanaev:

General direction of the scenes becomes horrible, especially when guns are around. That was always a problem with Yakuza, but 4 is just full of it.

I dunno, the Rikiya death scene is probably the single most horrible example of cutscene direction going to hell when guns are involved. If you couldn't predict what was going to happen after Tamashiro clenches his fists at the beginning of the scene then you are either a big dummy or were more charitable to the game at that point than I was.

Personally, my biggest problem with 4's story was how disappointing Saejima ended up when compared to his incredible introduction. I mean the Tojo Clan completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the guy and his family and his boss, had him throw away decades of his life for and consequently the life of his sister for nothing but then at the end he's just like "bruh I'm Patriarch Saejima now lol". Also Majima is lame as ♥♥♥♥ in this game.

[guts' theme (Cut & Looped)]

He's cool.

[Sekera]

I agree, Akiyama is massively overrated, probably (in part) by people who played Y4 or Y5 as their first Yakuza games (back on PS3). I mean, I don't hate the guy, but he is never relevant to anything. I think he is the most relevant in Y6, where he is not even playable, which is kinda ironic. Also his fighting style gets really old really fast, and he is pretty weak. I'd play Majima and even Tanimura over him any day.

I also agree that the plot in Y4 is the worst by far. 5 is not much better unfortunately. Those are the only 2 Yakuza games that just make me want to skip all the cutscenes, and just enjoy the minigames.

[Punished Rusty Shackleford]

Originally posted by Kanaev:

I don't know why you decided to bring up 3 on a forum about 4 in a post that doesn't mention 3 at all.
Plot of 3 isn't bad, especially compared to 4. Also - that K2 quest wasn't an apology, but hidden praise. "Maybe public didn't like it, but it's soul was there" if to condense.

i forgot, you can't talk about other games in the series on different boards.

[0JMachine]

dead souls is the worst by far followed by the psp games and the moba. I'd consider 4 one of the better games in the series but 5 is best. then again i've watched enough movies that they were trying to emulate to understand what they are doing

[Dan_the_pest]

I never understood Akiyama's appeal either. Instead of being a tryhard edgy cool guy, he's a tryhard Japanese-style cool guy. His whole bottomless supply of money gimmick makes the entire plot of the first Yakuza look laughable where they're fighting over a measly 10 billion yen. And that was before Y0 came out!

In terms of plot, the main PS3 games are some of the worst. They're all fun if taken as stand alone stories, even if they're incredibly stupid, but if you start piling them together from beginning to end, your suspension of disbelief starts taking a massive beating.

Y3's plot is just...there. Introduces and brings back a bunch of character who are never seen or heard of again like Kazama's twin, Lau Ka Long, Rikiya, Nakahara, Saki and Miko. This is also where they started going down the route of showing the Yakuza in an almost positive light, treating characters who acted like actual yakuza as disobedient children of casa Tojo while Daigo and the others acting like they're saints and don't partake in criminal activity.

Y4's plot is all over the place. A really convoluted excuse to connect 4 unrelated characters to fight 4 other unrelated characters at the end and the mandatory plot twist & conspiracy pile up is just ridiculous and not in a good way.

Y5's plot is just...ugh.

Haven't played Y6 yet, but I'm hoping they ease up on the convoluted conspiracies and twists.

Dead Souls was fun because it knew it wasn't canon and did whatever the hell it wanted.

[Edwardlloyd]

i agree with you but i got downvoted to oblivion for saying y3 and y4 is bad on yakuza subreddit lol

[JimmyT]

Originally posted by Edwardlloyd:

i agree with you but i got downvoted to oblivion for saying y3 and y4 is bad on yakuza subreddit lol

All redditors are Y0 babies

[Clancy McFancy]

I was liking him at first, but after the "If you're not serious enough to work on the red light district I can't give you a loan" thing, I lost about half my interest instantly.

[Bankai9212]

I like him as a character, the loan shark with a heart of gold. As for the plot it was far more focused compared to 3. As for twists, it’s basically a staple to a yakuza plot.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Clancy McFancy:

I was liking him at first, but after the "If you're not serious enough to work on the red light district I can't give you a loan" thing, I lost about half my interest instantly.

Because giving millions of cash without interest he needs to see if the person is series and willing to change there life around.

[JimmyT]

Originally posted by Clancy McFancy:

I was liking him at first, but after the "If you're not serious enough to work on the red light district I can't give you a loan" thing, I lost about half my interest instantly.

Yeah, I also thought that was pretty scummy at first, but to be fair I don't think the hostess clubs or massage parlors he mentioned in that substory are anywhere near actual prostitution, and it's not like she had to keep the job either. His point was more that she had to be willing to put aside her own pride to actually use the money and turn her life around, not "you are not serious enough unless you will sell your own body"

I lost my interest personally when he jumps on Haruka's "Mirei Park is a saint and we must believe in her DREAAAAAM" bus in Yakuza 5. Anyone who mentions Park in a positive light loses all of their credibility

[Clancy McFancy]

Originally posted by DT Scurvy:

Originally posted by Clancy McFancy:

I was liking him at first, but after the "If you're not serious enough to work on the red light district I can't give you a loan" thing, I lost about half my interest instantly.

Yeah, I also thought that was pretty scummy at first, but to be fair I don't think the hostess clubs or massage parlors he mentioned in that substory are anywhere near actual prostitution, and it's not like she had to keep the job either. His point was more that she had to be willing to put aside her own pride to actually use the money and turn her life around, not "you are not serious enough unless you will sell your own body"

I lost my interest personally when he jumps on Haruka's "Mirei Park is a saint and we must believe in her DREAAAAAM" bus in Yakuza 5. Anyone who mentions Park in a positive light loses all of their credibility

I mean, it's just tons of emotional manipulation. It's close enough, and it often escalates to that sort of thing if we're being realistic here

[Dan_the_pest]

Originally posted by DT Scurvy:

Originally posted by Clancy McFancy:

I was liking him at first, but after the "If you're not serious enough to work on the red light district I can't give you a loan" thing, I lost about half my interest instantly.

Yeah, I also thought that was pretty scummy at first, but to be fair I don't think the hostess clubs or massage parlors he mentioned in that substory are anywhere near actual prostitution, and it's not like she had to keep the job either. His point was more that she had to be willing to put aside her own pride to actually use the money and turn her life around, not "you are not serious enough unless you will sell your own body"

I lost my interest personally when he jumps on Haruka's "Mirei Park is a saint and we must believe in her DREAAAAAM" bus in Yakuza 5. Anyone who mentions Park in a positive light loses all of their credibility

The problem with that scenario with the mother is that Japan puts a lot of emphasis on a person's image and reputation. Becoming a hostess isn't the same as being a prostitute to us, but over there it is still associated with the red light district work, so a guilt by association thing. Same reason Kiryu had the whole Haruka drama in 5 and 6.

And I agree. Mirei is garbage and I hate how Japanese media tends to do the whole "I have a tragic backstory or reason for being a horrible person and therefore its ok and everyone forgives me" thing.