Please focus on multiplayer

[mike.jt]

Hi,
This game looks really great, but could you consider supporting a multiplayer right from the beginning ?

When game is finished it's usually too late and it's not possible to add multiplayer without rewriting nearly whole game.

I believe there is huge market demand for such a game.
This could be great game just to hang with friends on discord and play together.
Also a lots of people from Chronicon would probably flock here.

I would like to kindly but firmly ask you if you are willing at least try it ?

M.

[Ashmore[The Slormancer]]

The game core is complete so adding multiplayer right now would take as much time as if it the game was finished.
We've said it before but unfortunately, I'm the only developer and this is our first game so we'd rather focus on something we can handle and create a great single player game before thinking about multiplayer.

Multiplayer is not something you just add. It needs cool ideas and concept, decent latency, security against cheaters, among other things.

So that's not possible right now but it might be in the future.

[SamDays]

Escrito originalmente por AshmoreThe Slormancer:

The game core is complete so adding multiplayer right now would take as much time as if it the game was finished.
We've said it before but unfortunately, I'm the only developer and this is our first game so we'd rather focus on something we can handle and create a great single player game before thinking about multiplayer.

Multiplayer is not something you just add. It needs cool ideas and concept, decent latency, security against cheaters, among other things.

So that's not possible right now but it might be in the future.

I support this! I rather have for now a decent SP than a good SP and a less good MP.

But I want to say as well that a MP will be a nice feature

[Hippy]

Hope you will add multiplayer soon because for me no mp = no buy.
I am used to play with friends but game looks good.

[Yeldo]

Unfortunately I'm the same, i'm really craving for a good roguelike that co op lol but the game still looks great

[scribesnake]

Here on the other end of the spectrum, I loathe multiplayer and I particularly dislike roguelikes.

Multiplayer is the last thing that matters.

[BombShell]

Escrito originalmente por Yeldo:

Unfortunately I'm the same, i'm really craving for a good roguelike that co op lol but the game still looks great

Totally agree with this. Finding a good rogue like/lite that also features coop is hard to find.

[GRRz|Snake]

I would really love online co-op...

[[Ygg]Azarhiel]

No please, no more games with useless multiplayer because most ARPG's are played solo. Even PoE is mostly played solo...

[aplethoraof]

Escrito originalmente por AshmoreThe Slormancer:

Multiplayer is not something you just add. It needs cool ideas and concept, decent latency, security against cheaters, among other things.

So that's not possible right now but it might be in the future.

True, the game does need to be designed with MP in mind from the start.

But it doesn't need all that stuff that modern games have put in (matchmaking, anti-cheat, etcetera). In-fact (IMO) it is better off without all the "Mac philosophy" stuff that takes control out of the hands of the player.

Player-run servers were always fine. Plus stuff like anti-cheat just gets in the way of mods (if that ever becomes a thing). People (if they are given leave to run their own servers) can kick cheaters at their own discretion.

Steam can also be leveraged for MP.

[Dreadmoon "Nescera"]

the roadmap is still 2 years far away, we can talk about MP when the Game is finished, in my opinion the dev should focus around the game and Singleplayer, when the core and all the features are finished, then you can focus on MP/Koop
nobody wants a unfinished game with a MP feature.

Games like Wolcen/Pagan/Torchlight 3 all have focus on online/koop/mp
and we got a broken game experience and crap endgame/core features with many bugs

ofc this is just my opinion :)

[Digi]

I wouldn't suggest fully online. We've seen what happens.
Best thing to do would be p2p co-op. As Ashmore said you just don't push a button and the game is MP but if he's the only dev in the team something simpler would be way better in the long run, or just keeping it sp.

But with p2p co-op they won't have to really care about cheaters as well, host can just kick them or create a friend only game and invite just your friends. Especially if the game was meant mostly for SP I don't even see the reason caring about cheaters.

[Torinux]

I barely think in MP when playing an aRPG. For me, the fun about these games is to get my own stuff. I know some games are fun with MP, but in this case, we should respect their honesty and commitment to release a fully fleshed out and fully operational SP experience before anything else.

[Malphas]

Escrito originalmente por YggAzarhiel:

No please, no more games with useless multiplayer because most ARPG's are played solo. Even PoE is mostly played solo...

You're joking, right? These kinds of games NEED co-op to survive unless it's unique enough to get people's attention, but unfortunately this game looks pretty generic and more of the same only instead of playing with friends, you'll be alone playing. Gonna have to pass.

[Digi]

Escrito originalmente por Malphas⚡⚡:

Escrito originalmente por YggAzarhiel:

No please, no more games with useless multiplayer because most ARPG's are played solo. Even PoE is mostly played solo...

You're joking, right? These kinds of games NEED co-op to survive unless it's unique enough to get people's attention, but unfortunately this game looks pretty generic and more of the same only instead of playing with friends, you'll be alone playing. Gonna have to pass.

You said it yourself. Coop. Multiplayer and coop are a bit different.
Also you can't just say "I'm gonna implement coop" and press and button and BOOM you got a coop game.
It's better to get the game rolling as a single player experience first. Especially if the base of the game is built already on a single player platform.

It's ok though, enjoy poe with the good rng lul

[Malphas]

Escrito originalmente por Digi:

Escrito originalmente por Malphas⚡⚡:

You're joking, right? These kinds of games NEED co-op to survive unless it's unique enough to get people's attention, but unfortunately this game looks pretty generic and more of the same only instead of playing with friends, you'll be alone playing. Gonna have to pass.

You said it yourself. Coop. Multiplayer and coop are a bit different.
Also you can't just say "I'm gonna implement coop" and press and button and BOOM you got a coop game.
It's better to get the game rolling as a single player experience first. Especially if the base of the game is built already on a single player platform.

It's ok though, enjoy poe with the good rng lul

"Lul" really, guy? You seem upset that I told the truth about this game.