unanswered mysteries and questions/episode endings

[john doe]

Are there also good endings because for me it felt like i ended with many bad endings in most episodes the myseries were never really solved.


Like the stalker in episode 1 who was he? It wassnt frankie since he called again in episode 3 so who was the stalker and why and what happend to his body? his body dissapeared at the end.


Who or what was this weird girl in episode 2 what did she want? first it felt like i was stuck in a timeloop since munro kept waking up again and the very weird strange scene was both munro and poe dissapeared and the next moment they were tied up? It seemed like poe died at the end of episode 2 and munroe was acting weird and crazy it felt like she was possesed by the weird girl it was a strange ending and it diddnt make any sence to me.


also episode 3 was a bad ending the boy died and the killer wassnt caught i wassnt sure if it was the young blond girl since she was that same girl with the french accent or that weird lady at the hotel who looked really suspicious after poe left her. Also with the whistle what was that all about? I asked everyone about it and never really got an explanation for that so i got many unanswered questions about that episode.


I diddnt understand why that weird woman who put both poe and munro to sleep what she wanted she suposely robbed us but why? What was her angle? Why did she wanted to hypnotize munro if she could put us to sleep right from the start so why this whole theater?


neither did i understand this whole werewolf story in episode 5. Why wanted that guy to stop us from going and when i wanted to call the police we left to that motel and the next moment munro wanted to sleep with poe and they forgot this whole werewolf stuff diddnt make any sence to me. Why investigate something if you stop right at the beginning?

And episode 6 who was that weird guy that was not the creator or rather a fake one and that weird young girl?



Am i missing something? I played all 6 episodes and all of them left me with more questions than answers. Did i do something wrong that i got bad endings? Am i surpose to do things differently? It makes me annoying and frustrating that each episode ended with many unsolved mysteries. Each time i finished an episode i felt like WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPEND? what did i do wrong? can i get better endings? is there a way for getting all the answers by playing this game? Or is this a game that has on purpose many secrets and mysteries but no answers at all?


Am sorry for this rant post but having played this game with no answers on all the different cases whatsoever really annoyed me. I had no idea what the hell i was doing by playing it so the only thing that i want to ask is there a way of getting all these answers or not?

[rebelbydesign]

Do we need spoiler tags in here? Just in case:

I've only done one playthrough so I can only describe how my experience was different than yours.

Episode 2 made sense to me in the sense it was suggested to be a carbon monoxide induced hallucination, so it didn't an explanation.

Episode 3, I did save the missing guy, but Miss Clay was said to have disappeared and I was got the ending tag of Wes-something being revealed as Yvette.

In Episode 5, the implication seemed to me that Munro set up that call about the Werewolf so she could spend the night alone with Poe for her birthday. That's why the caller is initially really casual then switches tone. Then the fact that they were there at midnight is why Kasper appears, coming back in time to prevent that. I didn't get a full explanation for exactly what he was preventing.

I was expecting some elements to come up again or be explained. Definitely the murder in episode 1, which I thought would be the main overarching plot across episodes. I can't rule out that some things might be explained further in options I didn't take. I'm a bit mixed on the story. I wanted more information on Frankie, but cases like episode 2 and episode 5, I was fine with certain elements of the weirdness not being explained.

[Biotic Geth Prime]

Man, would you please start using punctuation? No offense intended (just constructive criticism) but you sound, at best, like an impulsive child. At worst, like a drunk bum.

Trust me, you'll sound a lot more intelligent and balanced after doing it.

[aurodane]

No offence intended, but you sound like a child or a drunk...If no offence is intended then you are the most oblivious person in the world.

[[GAZArts]]

Originally posted by tfo47:

Man, would you please start using punctuation? No offense intended (just constructive criticism) but you sound, at best, like an impulsive child. At worst, like a drunk bum.

Trust me, you'll sound a lot more intelligent and balanced after doing it.

Just some constructive criticism for your future responses to people's posts. You're coming off like a bit of a dic*. You may want to fix this ghastly character trait.

[Nightwing]

I really liked this game but I would have liked a longer story like Shapeshifting

It seems that most of the episodes were self-contained however do reference past events or other games.

I think it was meant to connect Doctor Dekker to Shapeshifting detective and this game. If we believe the vision or whatever then Monro was previously Elizabeth and altered reality to become Monro, using her powers much like Doctor Dekkers other patients.

Also my personal theory of the last chapter is that it is a setting up a shared verse. Doctor Dekker had a lot of references to Cthulhu and if chapter 4 makes them in the same universe then the last chapters girl (who i believe is played by the same actress who played violets cousin in shapeshifting detective) could be some kind of Cthulhu god. there is also a werewolf god in cthulhu mythos.

Chapter 2 it was a carbon monoxide poisoning halicination

Chapter 3 the girl is Ivette if you play and fail to catch her the ending tells you she was french and you hear her mom call down to her

Chapter 5 I believe we can cause them to spend the night together that is referenced in Shapeshifting detective, which causes poe to consider leaving his wife which before chapter 5 he seems against

[creativelybankrupt]

Originally posted by rebelbydesign:

Do we need spoiler tags in here? Just in case:

I've only done one playthrough so I can only describe how my experience was different than yours.

Episode 2 made sense to me in the sense it was suggested to be a carbon monoxide induced hallucination, so it didn't an explanation.

Episode 3, I did save the missing guy, but Miss Clay was said to have disappeared and I was got the ending tag of Wes-something being revealed as Yvette.

In Episode 5, the implication seemed to me that Munro set up that call about the Werewolf so she could spend the night alone with Poe for her birthday. That's why the caller is initially really casual then switches tone. Then the fact that they were there at midnight is why Kasper appears, coming back in time to prevent that. I didn't get a full explanation for exactly what he was preventing.

I was expecting some elements to come up again or be explained. Definitely the murder in episode 1, which I thought would be the main overarching plot across episodes. I can't rule out that some things might be explained further in options I didn't take. I'm a bit mixed on the story. I wanted more information on Frankie, but cases like episode 2 and episode 5, I was fine with certain elements of the weirdness not being explained.

Do you remember what you did / who you went to to save Joe in Episode 3

[rebelbydesign]

Originally posted by creativelybankrupt:

Do you remember what you did / who you went to to save Joe in Episode 3

I've done it more than one way. I think it's just based on the total number of visits you make to get the info you need. I think the first time it was the Headmistress, Miss Clay, Violet, then Wesmarie.

Originally posted by Nightwing:

Chapter 3 the girl is Ivette if you play and fail to catch her the ending tells you she was french and you hear her mom call down to her

Can you catch her? I've saved Joe twice with a different actions both times, but haven't found anything to uncover Yvette or catch Miss Clay before she flees.

[Hjeri]

Originally posted by gameboy1990:

Also with the whistle what was that all about? I asked everyone about it and never really got an explanation for that so i got many unanswered questions about that episode.

If you do the same episode in a different way, you will discover three things: first that Wesmarie has mental problems, hence the medication; second, that she also has a whistle because she used to run with Joe; third that she was in an ecology club in a school run by her substitute teacher Miss Clay. Wesmarie also tells you that her teacher forced her to make a list ranking her students by environmental impact, the top three were missing including Joe. We have to assume therefore that Miss Clay took advantage of a weak-minded girl to help aid her the cause she believes in.

[john doe]

Originally posted by Nightwing:

Chapter 3 the girl is Ivette if you play and fail to catch her the ending tells you she was french and you hear her mom call down to her

Can you catch her? I've saved Joe twice with a different actions both times, but haven't found anything to uncover Yvette or catch Miss Clay before she flees. [/quote]


nah there is noway you can catch either yvette or miss clay they escape either way i dont know what he was talking about but there is no ending were you catch them they always escape

[Caleb Athen]

Dark Nights Spoilers and Shapeshifting Detective Spoilers

So I'm replaying Shapeshifting Detective after Dark Nights, and I just saw a cutscene with a little girl running into one of the Guesthouse rooms. It's the same girl from Episode 6 from Dark Nights that's the Canvas Demon (I can't remember her name), is it possible that she's a traveler?

[john doe]

Originally posted by Caleb Athen:

Dark Nights Spoilers and Shapeshifting Detective Spoilers

So I'm replaying Shapeshifting Detective after Dark Nights, and I just saw a cutscene with a little girl running into one of the Guesthouse rooms. It's the same girl from Episode 6 from Dark Nights that's the Canvas Demon (I can't remember her name), is it possible that she's a traveler?

i made a post about that but it seems like its a different character it is the same actress but she has a different name in the shapeshifting detective and violet was her godmother

[thorn]

I'm not sure about it being a different character -- Violet and Marianna are not the same person, obviously (well, presumably), but Violet is still Violet in this game, and Poe and Munro are still themselves, too. Even Dupont gets a mention. It would've been easy to cast another child actor if this being a different character was the desired insinuation. Essentially, I think she's more than she appears (in one story path she's a demon, in another, she assures Munro that she's 'just a normal girl' -- that can somehow mysteriously disappear into thin air, which makes it very clear that she's anything but.) In Detective, it's absolutely stressed that 'Sam' should not change his appearance to that of a child, without explanation as to why that's a rule. That seems weirdly specific.

Spoiler for this and for Detective:

I think Agent X knows a lot more than he lets on. I wonder if he - and by extension 'Sam' ... whatever 'Sam' actually is ... - work for one of the corporations mentioned in the Many Happy Returns episode, and whether the shapeshifters are sent to specific places in time as well as space. That line in the post-credit scene of Shapeshifting Detective: "Debriefing 3204 Birmingham." The tarot readers in the game talking about what happened in Birmingham before they came to August. I assume he's being sent back in time to Birmingham to stop the killings there. Maybe it's even a loop - he failed to stop the killings, was sent to August to recalibrate, and is then returned to Birmingham, but something in the time travel procedure makes the user less and less stable.

(Actually, to be honest, I sometimes wonder if travellers are in actuality shapeshifters who have become warped and compromised somehow. It would explain X's interview in the secret debriefing, which reminds me of the Voight-Kampff test in Blade Runner. Shapeshifters aren't human. So what are they? And with their capabilities, they can be either the world's best detectives or the world's most dangerous killers.)

Anyway, got off topic there. It feels like Agent X knew that the girl would be there and that she's some kind of non-human entity. She feels as 'off' in Detective as she does here. She seems to nudge 'Sam' into dialogue choices that trouble people.

If we're drawing on the Lovecraftian Mythos, I would have her down as Nyarlathotep. He's the only deity who interacts with humans by taking on human shape, and he loves making Faustian deals with people, tricking people. Think Loki meets Mephistopheles, but terrifying. They don't call Nyarlathotep 'the Crawling Chaos' for nothing. They also call him 'God of a Thousand Forms', which is very much the kind of god that would be relevant to a Shapeshifting Detective ... Anyway. Personally, I think she's not a traveller, but something worse. But for all the Youthulhu jokes in Dekker and the Lovecraftian-inspired imagery in Dekker, Marianna's creature in the sea, I think, isn't directly Cthulhu, a star-spawn thereof, or anything else directly lifted from Lovecraft. The games have some elements of Lovecraftian-inspired horror, but I don't think they feature Lovecraft's characters and monsters. I think the girl falls into a similar category. And she utterly terrifies me now.

[thorn]

(Unrelated question: I wonder about Munro's nightmare in episode 1. Pushing through a crowd of people in pursuit of the number 9, people she can't see, but which are in the way. Is it a meta thing? Is it referring to the 9 capsules in the final episode? Are we, the players, the people? Are we the ones getting in the way of her life by affecting it? Especially since she describes them as a large crowd, but she can't see them..)

[Lukeb247]

Regarding achievements

Can anyone advise how you get the Neighbourhood watch one in episode 3 or the rock, paper scissors one in episode 5? I think I have a fair idea on how to get the rest.

[Hjeri]

Originally posted by adroidmortox:

Regarding achievements

Can anyone advise how you get the Neighbourhood watch one in episode 3 or the rock, paper scissors one in episode 5? I think I have a fair idea on how to get the rest.

go to the hotel as monroe then pick all the options that are hovering the mistress (try to crab her boobs), she will call the police after you leave.

>the rock, paper scissors one in episode 5?
i think paper wins?