CUSTOM ORDER MAID 3D2 It's a Night Magic

CUSTOM ORDER MAID 3D2 It's a Night Magic

Space Dust Jul 31, 2019 @ 12:59am
The Reason for the S-Court Patch
KISS wants to make money. They have a DLC model like no other. And you can expect to find all of that DLC on the S-court website. I doubt it will be made available on Steam.

But a large chunk of their userbase are from Steam, not S-court. So, you want to make sure that these individuals have an S-court account. You want to familiarize these individuals with purchasing on S-court.

How can you motivate them to make this first purchase on S-court? The adult patch.

So, do you want to know why KISS is forcing you to purchase from two websites?

Here is a small excerpt (around half). You can expect to pay at least $25 for each. You think KISS would want to share this money with Steam when they have their own website?

-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Extra Maid Pack]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [VR & Live Event 2018 Item Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [1st only you Dance]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Candy♡girl Dance]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Pixel Mint - Paradise Ocean Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Favorite - Sakura, Moyu. Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Alicesoft - Rance 10 Character Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yuzusoft - Riddle Joker Character Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Alumi Soft - Wanko no Yomeiri Character Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Alumi Soft - Wanko no Yomeiri 2 Character Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [ANIM NTR Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [ensemble - Koihana Character Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Suigetsu Character Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Raspberry Cube Full Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Minikui Mojika no Ko Character Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Mirai Radio to Jinkou-bato]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Kin'iro Loveriche -Golden Time-]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [CRYSTALiA - Mekuiro -Tsubaki Renka- Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Alicesoft - Evenicle 2 Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Clochette - Cororam Character Set]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Event Add-on Pack Vol.1]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Event Add-on Pack Vol.2]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Event Add-on Pack Vol.3]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Event Add-on Pack Vol.4]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Event Add-on Pack Vol.5]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Event Add-on Pack Vol.6]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Event Add-on Pack Vol.7]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Event Add-on Pack Vol.8]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Transfer Pack Vol.1] [Yandere]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Transfer Pack Vol.2] [Onee-chan]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Transfer Pack Vol.3] [Sadist]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Transfer Pack Vol.4] [Genki]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Personality & Transfer Pack Vol.3] [Sadist]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Personality Pack Vol.1] [Bookworm]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Personality Pack Vol.2] [Koakuma]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Personality Pack Vol.3] [Anesan]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Personality Pack Vol.4] [Maid Secretary]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Personality Pack Vol.5] [Imouto]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Personality Pack Vol.6] [Wary]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yotogi & H-event Add-on Pack] [Bookworm]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yotogi & H-event Add-on Pack] [Koakuma]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yotogi & H-event Add-on Pack] [Anesan]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yotogi & H-event Add-on Pack] [Maid Secretary]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yotogi Class Skills Vol.19]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yotogi Class Skills Vol.20]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yotogi Class Skills Vol.21]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yotogi Class Skills Vol.22]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yotogi Class Skills Vol.23]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Yotogi Class Skills Vol.24]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Season Pack] [2018 Summer]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Season Pack] [2018 Autumn]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Season Pack] [2018 Winter]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] [Season Pack] [2019 Spring]:
-- [COM3D2 Shop] Dec 31, 1969 @ 4:00pm[2019 Summer]:

Edit: And it was very, very kind of KISS to include one of these packs as compensation for the three delays. Exceedingly, exceedingly kind of them.
Last edited by Space Dust; Jul 31, 2019 @ 1:01am
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Spoons Jul 31, 2019 @ 1:12am 
I agree. I do hope they sell them on Steam also as DLC, but I'm not holding out any hope as in the Steam version of the game there is already a COM3D2 Shop button that opens a browser to their site which is currently down for maintenance.

While I'm all up for them wanting a bigger slice of the pie for their products, I do still hope they opt for a Steam DLC system as well as offering the DLC on their site. I feel if they only offer DLC on their site, the reviews will turn bad, fast. They're already treading on thin ice with the whole off-site paid patch which adds almost 9GB worth of content back into the game.
Rionage Jul 31, 2019 @ 1:26am 
This theory is actually pretty sound.
Space Dust Jul 31, 2019 @ 2:33am 
Originally posted by SepticSpoon:
in the Steam version of the game there is already a COM3D2 Shop button that opens a browser to their site which is currently down for maintenance.
I had no idea. I haven't bought my copy yet.

Well, that essentially settles the matter. I mean, it makes sense from a business perspective, but it is not the sort of sense that I like.
Cyberbeing Jul 31, 2019 @ 3:03am 
I think the main question is, why bother with Steam to begin with if you're going down that route. I mean seriously, just make your base game for free if you're going to be baiting people into your own site.
Lorim Jul 31, 2019 @ 3:08am 
Originally posted by Cyberbeing:
I think the main question is, why bother with Steam to begin with if you're going down that route. I mean seriously, just make your base game for free if you're going to be baiting people into your own site.
To catter a larger audience.

I mean, Kiss's Game and Custom Maid serie is pretty well know..... Among a minority of Otaku/Weebs.... But that doesn't amount much.

So, releasing it on Steam make the game way more visible to more people....
erobotan Jul 31, 2019 @ 3:37am 
if you follow eroge news, you should know that steam has ban tons of game or in some rare case they're forcing a censorship so that the dev can release it on steam (most of the time they just ban the game and say random vague stuff when asked for the reason). This is even happen to mangagamers & illusion.

what KISS do is actually the best solution if you don't want censored content or missing DLCs because of steam vague policy and randomness.
Last edited by erobotan; Jul 31, 2019 @ 3:37am
Cyberbeing Jul 31, 2019 @ 3:54am 
Originally posted by Lorim:
Originally posted by Cyberbeing:
I think the main question is, why bother with Steam to begin with if you're going down that route. I mean seriously, just make your base game for free if you're going to be baiting people into your own site.
To catter a larger audience.

I mean, Kiss's Game and Custom Maid serie is pretty well know..... Among a minority of Otaku/Weebs.... But that doesn't amount much.

So, releasing it on Steam make the game way more visible to more people....

Everyone knows the answer captain obvious. It was directed at the devs who want to leech on the popularity and convenience of other platforms like Steam. It no more than a bait and switch tactic.

If that percentage cut is hurting them so much they can think of increasing the price providing the same convenience for people who want to buy from one place.

Those who buy games from Steam expect to pay using Steam wallet.
The Who Jul 31, 2019 @ 4:01am 
Originally posted by Cyberbeing:
Originally posted by Lorim:
To catter a larger audience.

I mean, Kiss's Game and Custom Maid serie is pretty well know..... Among a minority of Otaku/Weebs.... But that doesn't amount much.

So, releasing it on Steam make the game way more visible to more people....

Everyone knows the answer captain obvious. It was directed at the devs who want to leech on the popularity and convenience of other platforms like Steam. It no more than a bait and switch tactic.

If that percentage cut is hurting them so much they can think of increasing the price providing the same convenience for people who want to buy from one place.

Those who buy games from Steam expect to pay using Steam wallet.

The funny thing is that in their pursuit of getting a bigger cut, they are potentially turning a lot of people back into piracy, simply because their own platform doesn't offer enough privacy.

On STEAM, whatever you pay is listed as purchase made to Steam.

Other competent website that sells risque content such as this simply employs a third party, payment deferrence company to protect their customers' privacy.

You'd think that for a company that seeks to milk their fanbase as much as possible with all these very expensive DLCs that can push your spending for ONE game to the tune of thousands of dollars, they'd be smart enough not to leave any obvious trace of the purchases on the credit card or bank statement. Instead, Googling "SCOURT TOSHIMA JP" which is what will appear on your account statement will lead you directly to the site.

Worthless, stupid, ignorant, excessively greedy ♥♥♥♥♥ managing KISS. They deserve getting their games pirated by their fanbase all these years; this was supposed to be their big chance at breaking mainstream and they ruin it.
Botan Jul 31, 2019 @ 4:07am 
Didn't Crysis 2 & dragon age 2 got removed because the devs was selling DLCs outside of Steam that is not obtainable via Steam wallet? Is this still allowed?
Antera Jul 31, 2019 @ 4:10am 
Originally posted by Botan ):
Didn't Crysis 2 & dragon age 2 got removed because the devs was selling DLCs outside of Steam that is not obtainable via Steam wallet? Is this still allowed?

Lot of 18+ game do this. have not seen any problem yet
Lorim Jul 31, 2019 @ 4:13am 
Originally posted by Cyberbeing:
Originally posted by Lorim:
To catter a larger audience.

I mean, Kiss's Game and Custom Maid serie is pretty well know..... Among a minority of Otaku/Weebs.... But that doesn't amount much.

So, releasing it on Steam make the game way more visible to more people....

Everyone knows the answer captain obvious. It was directed at the devs who want to leech on the popularity and convenience of other platforms like Steam. It no more than a bait and switch tactic.

If that percentage cut is hurting them so much they can think of increasing the price providing the same convenience for people who want to buy from one place.

Those who buy games from Steam expect to pay using Steam wallet.
I wonder if i must stay polite or trash talk you for the way to asnwered me.... Bha, doesn't matter.

So, Time for a little cultural lecture. : Kiss is a Japanese Eroge Dev and thus, work like one.

Meaning : releasing the game (and their Add-on) on multiple platform (DMM, DlSite pro for , each whith different "exclusive" DLC, then releasing DLC and content only available on their own in house Store/Website afterwards.

A lot of Japanese Eroge Maker do this (if not all even), and especially those making 3D Eroge (which aren't a lot.... i mean.... in Fact they are mainly 3.... And, with Kiss, now they are all on steam)

And if you wonder why..... Well, the Eroge Market Buble Burst around 2009/2010.... When before those years big Eroge could sell up to 200k copy in a short time.... now, for the same cost they sell for around 50k copy in the same amount of time.... Even, some Dev make deal between themself like "Can you release your game this day instead of this one, because it will confligt with ours and we'll both loose sales".

So, for getting the max ofmoney possible to survive, ofc they try to avoid third party store the maximum they could..... A lot of them don't have a lot of money and are pretty much in the red

In, fact, in the last 10 years, dozen and dozen of Eroge Maker filled up bankrupcy because the market in JP is oversaturated.... And since it's they primary and for 95% of them their only market

So, can you blame them to work the same way on the west Market, where Eroge are pretty much Niche Game with a very small community
Last edited by Lorim; Jul 31, 2019 @ 4:16am
erobotan Jul 31, 2019 @ 4:41am 
Here is the list of eroge banned by steam in the 2nd waifu holocaust. Keep in mind that this is v2.0 it means that it doesn't cover the list of the first waifu holocaust.

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/steam-waifu-holocaust-2-0-banned-game-list/

if you insist that everything must be on steam then the devs will have to resort on making eroge with only vanilla content (and there is still no guarantee that it won't get banned). That's not good.
Last edited by erobotan; Jul 31, 2019 @ 4:49am
Cyberbeing Jul 31, 2019 @ 5:00am 
Originally posted by Lorim:
snipe
I have no clue what you're blabbing about but trying to lecture me on the whole eroge industry gave me a chuckle.

This isn't a new game buddy. The game probably made back 10 folds its development cost and some on initial release... and then trying to come back with a localized corny machine-translated game just to sell on their corny website... NO, just NO...
Cyberbeing Jul 31, 2019 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by erobotan:
Here is the list of eroge banned by steam in the 2nd waifu holocaust. Keep in mind that this is v2.0 it means that it doesn't cover the list of the first waifu holocaust.

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/steam-waifu-holocaust-2-0-banned-game-list/

if you insist that everything must be on steam then the devs will have to resort on making eroge with only vanilla content (and there is still no guarantee that it won't get banned). That's not good.
Could you stop with BS ? That article is old and long since Steam has changed its stance.
I don't think so.If they want to make money,they should put dlcs on steam.Many people can get the dlc not from they S-Court(Pirate)and don't want to use it.If they want to make change,put it on steam and people will pay for it ! .I think may be somethings wrong with their strategies on steam? They should adjust their strategy.Kiss should use the steam community,they can get benefited.
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