Why do people whine so much about Lost Temple?

[Sardonicus]

It's seriously the easiest final to win repeatedly in the entire game once you know what to do. It's gotten to the point where I get more surprised when I don't win. It's such an easy crown.

People who say it's just rng/luck has seriously never even tried to notice all the consistent
predictable patterns that happen, and just have this defeatist attitude where they assume it's all just luck and so never actually try to engage with getting better at it, and keep doing silly things that make them lose like repeatedly slamming themselves into the middle-most door towards the crown even though that door is always suppose to be locked so should just be skipped automatically.

If you're bad at Lost Temple it's probably your fault you're bad.

[GR1MA550]

The easiest final is Fall mountain I think. Just to avoid falling balls.

[⭕⃤ BIPPO]

because it's 100% luck. I prefer the rolling stick thing or the one with the golden swinging poles, these are way fairer and it depends purely on skill.

[Sardonicus]

Originally posted by ⭕⃤ BIPPO:

because it's 100% luck. I prefer the rolling stick thing or the one with the golden swinging poles, these are way fairer and it depends purely on skill.

There is nearly no luck involved in Lost Temple, just being quick at obstacles and understanding pattern recognition except for newbies who don't understand how Lost Temple works who are just blindly bashing at doors with no sense of purpose.

If it was 100% luck I wouldn't currently be on a 8 streak on times winning Lost Temple in a row, which made me want to make this thread, since it made me think about how funny it is that people refer to Lost Temple as a luck map when you can win nearly every time if you know what to do. People like you say it's luck cause you're bad at it.

[Sardonicus]

Originally posted by GR1MA550:

The easiest final is Fall mountain I think. Just to avoid falling balls.

It's pretty easy but not the most easy since it's one of those maps that's so brainlessly simple that pretty much everyone is good at it, so you need a fairly perfect run of Fall Mountain to win usually since most people are going to be going at a similar speed. It seems like 90% of Fall Mountain is just being slightly quicker at the jump for the crown than everyone else crowded around the crown. that made it to the top just as fast

It's also so dull and repetitive. You play Fall Mountain once and you've pretty much experienced how it's going to go every time, with very minor variation changes. Lost Temple has the benefit of being a new experience every time.

[Femboy Smegma]

I wonder what the predictable patterns is at the beginning "guess left or right"

[DEIMOS]

Originally posted by Sardines:

Originally posted by ⭕⃤ BIPPO:

because it's 100% luck. I prefer the rolling stick thing or the one with the golden swinging poles, these are way fairer and it depends purely on skill.

There is nearly no luck involved in Lost Temple, just being quick at obstacles and understanding pattern recognition except for newbies who don't understand how Lost Temple works who are just blindly bashing at doors with no sense of purpose.

If it was 100% luck I wouldn't currently be on a 8 streak on times winning Lost Temple in a row, which made me want to make this thread, since it made me think about how funny it is that people refer to Lost Temple as a luck map when you can win nearly every time if you know what to do. People like you say it's luck cause you're bad at it.

Lost Temple is 100% luck based and no, there aren't any patterns

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

I hate it because 6 times during the logic event, I reached the crown first only to miss the grab for 1/3rd of an inch. It made me hate the game on its entirety.

The game needs a practice mode, ideally a ghost mode so I can practice the track.
Aside that inconvenience, all the youtube guides are pretty much invalid now as the track features backtracking now.

Oh yeah also, speedrunners are damned plague in this game, one time I watched a guy gain on me using some sort of trick in which he impulsed himself through the conveyor belt at mach speed.

[Cringe Guy 2086]

yeah usually its skill based. recently ive been getting garbage patterns where 2 paths go apart and then come back together really fast and its impossible to tell where to go and then i lose

[GeminiJDX]

My issue with it players like you, who are too good at it. I can't make one simple mistake or wrong turn or else I have no shot. Seems like each time I make a final, I am in there with all star players

[Martin - ICG]

Originally posted by GeminiJDX:

My issue with it players like you, who are too good at it. I can't make one simple mistake or wrong turn or else I have no shot. Seems like each time I make a final, I am in there with all star players

Well... it's competitive multiplayer.

[(> '.' )>]

Originally posted by GeminiJDX:

My issue with it players like you, who are too good at it. I can't make one simple mistake or wrong turn or else I have no shot. Seems like each time I make a final, I am in there with all star players

Which finals do you prefer?

[GWOP-W×TCH]

Because there are a ton of unpaid intern maps in this game that are just flat out lazy and bad.

[Sardonicus]

Originally posted by GrandSlapper:

Lost Temple is 100% luck based and no, there aren't any patterns

You are overwhelmingly wrong, but that's fine since you thinking it's luck based just means that people like me don't have to worry about people like you being any genuine competition when playing since because you're never going to actually figure out the patterns, you're just going to keep choosing the wrong doors and then whine about how it's all the games fault even when there's clear defined rules like how the final path to the crown will always be one of the 4 nearest side doors and never the middle one. which will always be locked.

Keep slamming yourself into doors that will never not be locked so that it can give me a head start to the correct door, while you blame rng. Your attitude only give people like me an even bigger advantage at Lost Temple.

[Sardonicus]

Originally posted by GeminiJDX:

My issue with it players like you, who are too good at it. I can't make one simple mistake or wrong turn or else I have no shot. Seems like each time I make a final, I am in there with all star players

That's kind of the game functioning as intended though. The best players are the most likely to make it to the final so by the time you're at that point, it's likely going to be a bit skewed towards the better players.

I think what can really help in that situation is to practice in the finals marathon. Since you're only going to have 6 people as competition it's not so likely you're going to get stuck with really good players statistically speaking, which means when you inevitably either fall mountain or Lost Temple it's a great time to just practice getting better at the obstacles, and patterns since you only have one person as competition, then to apply that knowledge when you have to face off the good players in Main Game.

[poros1ty]

Lost temple is better now that they lowered the player count slightly. It's also incredibly fun as a 1v1 finale and you could make the case that it's probably the best 1v1 finale or a close second.

Because it's the most common finale (source: https://fallalytics.com/roundsall )
and it feels like it has been for many months now probably factors into why people complain about it. It's also very punishing as it can be pretty hard to recover and win if you fall even slightly behind. One mistake or one bad door guess is all it takes to lose it sometimes. Some players probably rarely make it to the crown room which is evident by some of the lily pad struggles I've witnessed in there.

Comparatively, in hexagone there's more room for error and mistakes aren't nearly as punishing, untill you get to the bottom layer of course. Also, being the first bean on last layer doesn't guarantee you'll lose on hexagone either. It's nice to have this kind of variety in the finales, with more coming soon.