tips for beginners

[DanBen]

Hi,
20 years ago i played online sim racers with a wheel etc. and i was not bad at it. I decided to buy circuit superstars because i dont need all the setup anymore and i am not in mood to buy and play racings sims anymore. Do you have any tips to be quicker, either i got super old and my reflexes suck with over 40 or the game is really tricky. The mustang car on that palm tree track was the first i tried and i spend hours but couldnt manage to come even close to the competetive lap times, the best i managed was a high 42 sec time and 40 is the record. That ghost car seems to have 400HP more :) How on earth i can find 2-3 secs ? Maybe because i used controller and the secret is keyboard or maybe a wheel? How import is digital throttle because when you play with keyboard you only have full throttle or no throttle while with controller you have analog throttle? Is this game sensitive for analog throttle. Maybe i am braking to late, it really looks like the ghost car has twice the power :)

[faley]

Also interested in this.
At first approach, keyboard seems more reasonable than xbox controller in terms of speed. But I also don't get where competitors fins additional 2 secs a lap.

[PinStratsDan]

The consensus (mostly from Discord discussions) is that keyboard/controller buttons and d-pad is faster over hotlapping because you can make more precise inputs. The game doesn't really bother with brake/throttle pressure, so digital on/off is fine. When you do longer races with fuel/tires, then a controller might be better to control tire spin and to turn more gently. That is what I prefer, but I know OF has done a lot of work to try and even the experience between digital/analogue.

The only way to get better, is to do lots and lots of laps. Some of the top guys on the Discord is talking about over 500 hours in the game already ;-). It is also very worthwhile to mirror, or at least understand, what the fastest rider did during his/her hotlap. You learn a lot about opening up the corner/squaring up the corner by turning as late as possible, hitting the apex, when to brake/just let go of the throttle etc. by watching and learning from them.

I'm also over forty and I guess age has caught up a bit. With that said, I can hotlap within half a second of the top guys, but that seems to be my glass ceiling ;-)

[Perre]

Both are equally good and performant. Im a controller driver and use the joystick, and I am always top 10. Its personal preference at this point.

[Middy]

Circuit Superstars brags about how good it feels all over the store page and yet the optimal way to play is not just with digital gas/brakes but digital steering as well? Either gamers are still as stubborn and deluded as they've always been or something is very wrong with the game itself, this should be a total no-brainer in favour of controllers.

[PinStratsDan]

Originally posted by Middy:

Circuit Superstars brags about how good it feels all over the store page and yet the optimal way to play is not just with digital gas/brakes but digital steering as well? Either gamers are still as stubborn and deluded as they've always been or something is very wrong with the game itself, this should be a total no-brainer in favour of controllers.

Maybe you should play it and feel for yourself why they are rightly saying so ;-)

[~HaY~]

Originally posted by PinStratsDan:

The consensus (mostly from Discord discussions) is that keyboard/controller buttons and d-pad is faster over hotlapping because you can make more precise inputs. The game doesn't really bother with brake/throttle pressure, so digital on/off is fine. When you do longer races with fuel/tires, then a controller might be better to control tire spin and to turn more gently. That is what I prefer, but I know OF has done a lot of work to try and even the experience between digital/analogue.

The only way to get better, is to do lots and lots of laps. Some of the top guys on the Discord is talking about over 500 hours in the game already ;-). It is also very worthwhile to mirror, or at least understand, what the fastest rider did during his/her hotlap. You learn a lot about opening up the corner/squaring up the corner by turning as late as possible, hitting the apex, when to brake/just let go of the throttle etc. by watching and learning from them.

I'm also over forty and I guess age has caught up a bit. With that said, I can hotlap within half a second of the top guys, but that seems to be my glass ceiling ;-)

Maybe I'm not that talented but I'm having a lot of issues improving my lap time.

Without sector times, proper time attack mode that lets me trace a ghost, i find it extremely difficult to notice I'm lacking pace

I tired using free race with no fuel, tyre, and damage but it didn't really get me very far.

The weekly time attack is not even useful for my purpose of practicing.

[Apillow]

Laps are on average about 30 seconds, so sector times..? Just consider the lap one sector and you're good.

I think all the tools are right there. Use Time Trials and set ghost to player ahead or to fastest and you have a decent target to ghost. Try out different ways to attack each corner and see where that gets you.

From that point on it's just a grind. Which is something every driver has to do to get good.

[~HaY~]

I think you may be missing the point that i was raising. What i meant was:

Originally posted by Apillow:

Laps are on average about 30 seconds, so sector times..? Just consider the lap one sector and you're good.

Breaking down a full lap into sectors (even if it is only 6-8 seconds per sector) is a to help understand the full lap as smaller chunks.

When you experiment with a sequence of 3-4 corners, you learn a lot faster because there are less variables and you can see clear performance gains (or losses) immediately. While doing it over a full lap, there are so many small things that could've happened outside of those 3-4 corner sequences that you are aiming to improve, that makes it very hard to judge by looking at the complete lap time to determine if you made the targeted improvement or not.

Originally posted by Apillow:

I think all the tools are right there. Use Time Trials and set ghost to player ahead or to fastest and you have a decent target to ghost. Try out different ways to attack each corner and see where that gets you.

I'm not aware there is a free "time trail" mode in this game taht lets you select any track, and any racing category. Weekly Time Trail only limits you to an arbitraory 3 track + category combos.

Free race also does not allow ghost to be set up.



End of the day there is the old fashion way to improve by practicing , then there is more effective & efficient ways to improve by providing just a bit more data and tools to the players.

[Apillow]

You're right! Apologies.
Time trial is limited to the weekly ones. I'm guessing this is something they will address before or at the final release.

And while I don't agree with splitting up the track in sectors per say, I do get your point. Personally I would like to see something of a relative time difference that shows if I'm gaining on the cars around me.

Maybe start a 1v1 race with the AI, put it in a high level and try to follow? Myself, I've learned a ton from doing races against highest level AI. I lose, but I do see how they attack corners etc. The highest level AI is pretty much flawless IMO.

[~HaY~]

Originally posted by Apillow:

You're right! Apologies.
Time trial is limited to the weekly ones. I'm guessing this is something they will address before or at the final release.

And while I don't agree with splitting up the track in sectors per say, I do get your point. Personally I would like to see something of a relative time difference that shows if I'm gaining on the cars around me.

Maybe start a 1v1 race with the AI, put it in a high level and try to follow? Myself, I've learned a ton from doing races against highest level AI. I lose, but I do see how they attack corners etc. The highest level AI is pretty much flawless IMO.

Yeah that's what I'm doing for now. Problem is I am almost 5-7 tenth faster than Pro, but 5-7 tenth slower than Master. So it's been very hard to figure out the gap.

But i am making some slow progress.

Don't take it that i dislike the game though. This is probably one of the most fun casual but yet sim-ish racing game I've played in a long time.

[Apillow]

Master is tough. I'm about as quick as them but I lack consistency. And it depends heavily on which car I'm driving. I'm an absolute jedi in the Vost but I struggle with GT for example.

If only they'd give us a bit more multiplayer options I'd invite you to do some practice together :)

Great game. Good luck!

[Freak]

Sorry this is off topic but you guys seem to know your stuff..... Anyone know how to reset controller options. The game doesn't seem too be recognising the triggers on my XBox controller. Was working fine until I screwed with them

[~HaY~]

Originally posted by TotalFreakUK:

Sorry this is off topic but you guys seem to know your stuff..... Anyone know how to reset controller options. The game doesn't seem too be recognising the triggers on my XBox controller. Was working fine until I screwed with them

i think you may have discovered a bug... i'm also not able to blind any of the analogue controls.

[Freak]

Originally posted by ~HaY~:

Originally posted by TotalFreakUK:

Sorry this is off topic but you guys seem to know your stuff..... Anyone know how to reset controller options. The game doesn't seem too be recognising the triggers on my XBox controller. Was working fine until I screwed with them

i think you may have discovered a bug... i'm also not able to blind any of the analogue controls.

Least I know I'm not the only one. Just wish I could find the config file so I can delete it and start again. Cheers for the reply me old mucker ;)