Sands of Salzaar

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Loot Dec 26, 2021 @ 1:08pm
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Community compilation of knowledge and mechanics in the game.
Please feel free to post about things you've discovered, while playing the game, in this thread.

- You can change your appearance by talking to Haberdasher in Redstone Keep.

- Drop chance of good items like Epic tier and Wisdom crystals from Heroic Spirits seems to be tied to level. The higher your level, the better the loot you get, so extensive farming before max level is a bit wasteful. - The Grand Mugwump

- You can get 2 Skill Points every 30 days in Zagros Mountains. There is a Library Northwest of Crowders Village, which is in the top left and one below/between Southcliff Village and Snowridge, which are near the bottom of the map. You will need to defeat a monster. You also get a random potion that increases a stat by 5 points.

- Heroic Souls can give Equipment, Jewels or 1-2 Wisdom Crystals when you defeat them. It is best to clear them out whenever they spawn. - Galvon

- There is a Purple Flame, Southwest of Cedarwood Village in Zagros Mountains & West Docana Desert, northeast edge of the map from Diresprings that allows you to enchant items, including mounts, for the price of 50 Jade. You can choose 1 of 3 enchantments. - Michiel & zAcEz

- You can recruit Dragons at a Portal, Northwest of Snowridge in Zagros Mountains, South of the Enchantment location. - Michiel

- You can get unique trinkets that provide skills from Tavern Maidens after romancing. Fadia: Phoenix Tome; summons a powerful Phoenix for 25s to assist you in battle,
Nura: Tome of the Darkclaw; Inflicts burn damage in a marked area,
Sumayah: Crown of Vines; 30% chance to Bind attacker for 5s,
Shukriya: Lilac Lightning Stone; 3 Chains of Lightning that hit enemies,
Jesseniya: Rogue Stone; Turns you invisible every 5s. - WTFUUN

- Winning a brawl in towns where a Tavern Maiden resides will lead to an improvement in relationship with the maiden. There's also a chance that she will try to stop you from starting a brawl. Not continuing the brawl will also improve your relationship with her. You can do this more often than giving gifts, buying drinks for everyone, or asking her personal questions. - loseaturn

- Hero NPCs will travel between two towns on a daily basis. So if you don't find a ruler/vassal in his own fief/land, chances are he's in the next town/village nearby. You can also ask your hero companions the locations of NPC listed in your intel. - loseaturn

- You can get 50 Jade from clearing heavily guarded Bandit Camps. They may also have chests which contain a small amount of Jade and refill over time. You'll know if they have Jade or not by the icon hovering over the chests. - Galvon

- When tracking down a hero you want to hire, open the map and check the settlements. You can see each character, if any, by hovering over the settlement. - Jeidi

- Burn and Bleed are powerful status effects that scale with Max HP. - Jeidi

- The Mount Merchant in Twinluna Valley has a rare chance to put a Phoenix Mount up for sale. Costing 24k Utar, it is one of the fastest mounts in the game. - Jeidi
You can also obtain this mount from Redstone Keep Merchant. - Snowman

- You can obtain a Leopard Mount with the same speed for 6.6k Utar. - Michiel

- Capture cities/villages instead of outposts. Owning these opens up their exclusive dungeons which give unique and powerful items. - Jeidi

- Keep working on your Brawling skills, as these will allow you to enter tournaments which will gives you rewards like gear and Wisdom Crystals. - Jeidi

- Keep increasing your prestige in settlements. There's a wandering NPC who will allow you to hire a powerful healing unit; White Rose Healers, that can only be found in Tribal Halls which require you to have high prestige in order to enter. Higher prestige also increases the quality of troops you will be able to hire when talking to the Village Elder. - Jeidi

- There’s a free expansion for the game that is not on the Steam store. It’s located in the mod section in the main menu and you have to activate it. It adds a ton of new quests, items, and a couple playable characters. - Malech

- Companions with 50-99 relationship can level up their command skill to level two, while those with 100 can increase it to level 3. Just click the Dialogue icon in your party menu and choose "About your command.." to level up the skill. - loseaturn

- Before meeting Ifirt Void Master, there is a tall Ifirt and a short Ifirt. Talk to them twice. They will request that you bring them some water. Give them some and they pay you with a Book of Fire (water can be obtained by talking to the farmer(?) in the same map). Complete searching for all pages of the Book of Fire, fight the boss, and choose not to release him, you can summon him in battle when you have the Book of Fire equipped. - Plant a Butterfly

- Fastest way to increase affection with a party member when gifts are hard to find is to dismiss them near a town, then ask what you can do for them. You can recruit them back after that and proceed to do their task. - zAcEz

- "The Legacy Companion Threnody has a skill at 20 Relationship that grants one Wisdom Chrystal every week.

That's the extra Skill Point item. Super valuable!

You have to unlock her in Crystal Springs the first time, I don't know if you can do it in subsequent playthroughs though, I haven't tried. Though you can take her as a starting companion in the Legacy Shop after unlocking her." - 2chuu4u

Relationships: https://www.reddit.com/r/SandsOfSalzaar/comments/s6euap/mostly_complete_relationship_spreadsheet/ - Link posted by Nauntingraund
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Nauntingraund Jan 1, 2022 @ 9:17pm 
Originally posted by Akua_Sama:
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Originally posted by zAcEz:
You can only promote up to 2 T6 units. So its not worth the time to collect more level 3 titles. However, you can have more than 2 T6 units by assigning as guards from your faction garrison.

I am confuse about this T6 limit. The game says I can only have 2 T6, yet it let me have 6 T6 (2 Fire Dragons and 4 Phoenix) I am able to deploy all in battle.

Is the limit only for dragons?

you might be using the t6 unit restrictions mod( removes all prereqs for t6 units and lets you have unlimited)

i just tried promoting on my fire wyverns to a dragons while having 2 dakn shadow apostles and it gives me the message that i can only have 2 t6 units.
Nauntingraund Jan 1, 2022 @ 9:35pm 
Originally posted by zAcEz:
Originally posted by Akua_Sama:
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I am confuse about this T6 limit. The game says I can only have 2 T6, yet it let me have 6 T6 (2 Fire Dragons and 4 Phoenix) I am able to deploy all in battle.

Is the limit only for dragons?


Originally posted by Vvv:
So basically you can't spam Dragons and demons anymore...or at the very least not to their full potential...

No clue, I havent gotten to dragons & phoenixes despite my 460+ days >.<"


Just go save scum the portal above snowridge,
Nauntingraund Jan 1, 2022 @ 9:40pm 
when at war with a faction if you have favor with one of their towns ( 30 is the highest i have tried on this) if you are caught by a guard when sneaking in it will bypass the combat(will cost you some utar but is better then fighting the guard boss) will also let you into the tribal hall.
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Nauntingraund Jan 1, 2022 @ 9:52pm 
Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
Originally posted by Akua_Sama:
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I am confuse about this T6 limit. The game says I can only have 2 T6, yet it let me have 6 T6 (2 Fire Dragons and 4 Phoenix) I am able to deploy all in battle.

Is the limit only for dragons?

you might be using the t6 unit restrictions mod( removes all prereqs for t6 units and lets you have unlimited)

i just tried promoting on my fire wyverns to a dragons while having 2 dakn shadow apostles and it gives me the message that i can only have 2 t6 units.

So the dragons do count towards the t6 count, so if you went to say the dakn you would be unable to get shadow apostles, but phoenix and demons dont seem to count towards this, on the same account i just posted about it allowed me to promote my phoenix chick and 2 lesser demons to their t6 counter parts.
MEGAMIAQUA Jan 1, 2022 @ 11:31pm 
Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
Originally posted by Nauntingraund:

you might be using the t6 unit restrictions mod( removes all prereqs for t6 units and lets you have unlimited)

i just tried promoting on my fire wyverns to a dragons while having 2 dakn shadow apostles and it gives me the message that i can only have 2 t6 units.

So the dragons do count towards the t6 count, so if you went to say the dakn you would be unable to get shadow apostles, but phoenix and demons dont seem to count towards this, on the same account i just posted about it allowed me to promote my phoenix chick and 2 lesser demons to their t6 counter parts.
I don't have mods yet.

Yeah, I guess some units don't count. I got another phoenix so now I have 7 T6.
andy Jan 2, 2022 @ 10:45am 
Some additional info about companions relationship system. Tested over 3 runs - one with a party, but factionless, one with a party and a faction, and one solo with all factions destroyed.

Companions' personalities and relationships are not random. If two companions became enemies in one playthrough - sooner or later they will become enemies in every new playthrough.

Relationships between recruitable characters change only during "random events" you can see in lower left corner.

Reading those messages can give you some hints about companion's personality. "Good" companions will heal, help and avoid violence. "Evil" companions will use violence and trickery.

Those events can happen to almost every companion. The only companions protected from them are your own party as long as you don't join any faction or create your own.

Companions join your party with relationships they already gained through events. If you want to keep companions with opposite views - recruit them early or using legacy system. But that will only prevent their relationships from worsening until you join any faction.

Companions with similar views can have minor conflicts, but in most cases those conflicts won't affect your party because they gain reputation from the same options, and that amount will be higher, than lost rep.

You can increase reputation with both such characters if you will increase rep with their friend. For example, Umara and Threnody have a slight conflict, and increasing rep or giving a gift to one of them will reduce rep with another by 1 point. This can cause a situation when you have 99 rep with one and 99 or 100 with another. If you want to increase both reps to 100, you should give some gift to other "good" character. For example, increasing rep with Lotus will increase rep with Umara and Threnody from 98-99 to 100.

Examples of "good" companions (not guaranteed that there are no major conlicts between them though): Riq (best waifu), Lotus Kabir, Makan, Najima, Tasha, Threnody, Zelisa, Takiyah, Wakata, Assel, Yousef, Umara, Ruha (surprisingly), Vicuna, Ludo Khan.

Examples of "evil" companions: Fayiz, Princess Bellen, Basit, Talat Hassan, Tua, Astrid, Mousa, Infan, Bataru, Kanaya, Petra, Sur, Mucadin, Hu'ud, Latif, Sanjay, Galo Zahra, Alaf Jahim, Shahid, Khaza.

Of course, all of this can be wrong. But that's the impression i got.

Also, if you want to capture some town, but don't want to lose reputation with its sultan - get into "wanted" status with this faction (if still factionless) or declare war on them, and instead of capturing it directly choose "capture for the free states". That option does not cause any rep loss, and you can capture neutral town with only 20-30 defenders protecting it.
Nauntingraund Jan 2, 2022 @ 10:58am 
Originally posted by andy:
Some additional info about companions relationship system. Tested over 3 runs - one with a party, but factionless, one with a party and a faction, and one solo with all factions destroyed.

Companions' personalities and relationships are not random. If two companions became enemies in one playthrough - sooner or later they will become enemies in every new playthrough.

Relationships between recruitable characters change only during "random events" you can see in lower left corner.

Reading those messages can give you some hints about companion's personality. "Good" companions will heal, help and avoid violence. "Evil" companions will use violence and trickery.

Those events can happen to almost every companion. The only companions protected from them are your own party as long as you don't join any faction or create your own.

Companions join your party with relationships they already gained through events. If you want to keep companions with opposite views - recruit them early or using legacy system. But that will only prevent their relationships from worsening until you join any faction.

Companions with similar views can have minor conflicts, but in most cases those conflicts won't affect your party because they gain reputation from the same options, and that amount will be higher, than lost rep.

You can increase reputation with both such characters if you will increase rep with their friend. For example, Umara and Threnody have a slight conflict, and increasing rep or giving a gift to one of them will reduce rep with another by 1 point. This can cause a situation when you have 99 rep with one and 99 or 100 with another. If you want to increase both reps to 100, you should give some gift to other "good" character. For example, increasing rep with Lotus will increase rep with Umara and Threnody from 98-99 to 100.

Examples of "good" companions (not guaranteed that there are no major conlicts between them though): Riq (best waifu), Lotus Kabir, Makan, Najima, Tasha, Threnody, Zelisa, Takiyah, Wakata, Assel, Yousef, Umara, Ruha (surprisingly), Vicuna, Ludo Khan.

Examples of "evil" companions: Fayiz, Princess Bellen, Basit, Talat Hassan, Tua, Astrid, Mousa, Infan, Bataru, Kanaya, Petra, Sur, Mucadin, Hu'ud, Latif, Sanjay, Galo Zahra, Alaf Jahim, Shahid, Khaza.

Of course, all of this can be wrong. But that's the impression i got.

Also, if you want to capture some town, but don't want to lose reputation with its sultan - get into "wanted" status with this faction (if still factionless) or declare war on them, and instead of capturing it directly choose "capture for the free states". That option does not cause any rep loss, and you can capture neutral town with only 20-30 defenders protecting it.

so a couple of corrections the rep change to people in your parties is only effected if you click on the chat bubble that appears over your mini map, gifting to a good/ evil character does not affect rep with a opposite allied faction i have run 15+ characters each time with riq, astrid, and galo and have never once seen an interaction similar to that 3 of which are in a faction that is not my one( dakn, thur, and dhib.) and have never had that affect my rep with anyone( all these characters have at least 200 days igt) on capturing a town, if you want it for yourself and dont want to lose rep just declaring war is enough, when you click on a town if it says you are wanted by x or this town lies deep within x territory, using that lay siege option does not affect rep with the town only thing that does is if you enter the town and click the crossed swords in city center that says launch siege at this location, however the free state option is great if you want to get rep with a town and dont like commissions since its pretty easy to free them let someone else take over and repeat.
Michiel Jan 2, 2022 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
so a couple of corrections the rep change to people in your parties is only effected if you click on the chat bubble that appears over your mini map

This is not true in my game at least, the rep goes down and up because of other reasons as well (not entirely sure which).
andy Jan 2, 2022 @ 1:32pm 
Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
so a couple of corrections the rep change to people in your parties is only effected if you click on the chat bubble that appears over your mini map, gifting to a good/ evil character does not affect rep with a opposite allied faction i have run 15+ characters each time with riq, astrid, and galo and have never once seen an interaction similar to that 3 of which are in a faction that is not my one( dakn, thur, and dhib.) and have never had that affect my rep with anyone( all these characters have at least 200 days igt) on capturing a town, if you want it for yourself and dont want to lose rep just declaring war is enough, when you click on a town if it says you are wanted by x or this town lies deep within x territory, using that lay siege option does not affect rep with the town only thing that does is if you enter the town and click the crossed swords in city center that says launch siege at this location, however the free state option is great if you want to get rep with a town and dont like commissions since its pretty easy to free them let someone else take over and repeat.

Did i say anything about those random discussions at all?

Gifts can (and will) affect reputation with all friends and enemies of that NPC, even if they are not your companions.

Capturing a town directly to a faction reduces reputation with its current governor. Turning it into a neutral town does not.

Neutral towns can be captured for free states again without any faction capturing them first.
Nauntingraund Jan 2, 2022 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by andy:
Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
so a couple of corrections the rep change to people in your parties is only effected if you click on the chat bubble that appears over your mini map, gifting to a good/ evil character does not affect rep with a opposite allied faction i have run 15+ characters each time with riq, astrid, and galo and have never once seen an interaction similar to that 3 of which are in a faction that is not my one( dakn, thur, and dhib.) and have never had that affect my rep with anyone( all these characters have at least 200 days igt) on capturing a town, if you want it for yourself and dont want to lose rep just declaring war is enough, when you click on a town if it says you are wanted by x or this town lies deep within x territory, using that lay siege option does not affect rep with the town only thing that does is if you enter the town and click the crossed swords in city center that says launch siege at this location, however the free state option is great if you want to get rep with a town and dont like commissions since its pretty easy to free them let someone else take over and repeat.

Did i say anything about those random discussions at all?

Gifts can (and will) affect reputation with all friends and enemies of that NPC, even if they are not your companions.

Capturing a town directly to a faction reduces reputation with its current governor. Turning it into a neutral town does not.

Neutral towns can be captured for free states again without any faction capturing them first.

you said the random events on the bottom left change rep with people in your party if you join a faction. "Reading those messages can give you some hints about companion's personality. "Good" companions will heal, help and avoid violence. "Evil" companions will use violence and trickery.

Those events can happen to almost every companion. The only companions protected from them are your own party as long as you don't join any faction or create your own."

which is not true and why i said the only thing that affects their rep regardless of if you are in a faction is the random event dialogue that pops up on the right side of the screen

here is proof that giving a gift to characters does not affect ones in your party using astrid and riq( who buy your list this should affect). https://imgur.com/a/tXREW0d

capturing a town ONLY effects rep negativly if you use the lay seige at location here is me taking camp bell bazaar from bahat and not losing rep with him (we are at war with the akhal in this forgot to screen shot that) https://imgur.com/a/1pccpfd i need to iterate this REP is only affected in combat if you choose a side or not at war with a faction,
yes they can be recaptured by why would take a rep hit because you cant be at war with a free state so you would negate your rep gain from freeing them in the first place.
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Nauntingraund Jan 2, 2022 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by Michiel:
Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
so a couple of corrections the rep change to people in your parties is only effected if you click on the chat bubble that appears over your mini map

This is not true in my game at least, the rep goes down and up because of other reasons as well (not entirely sure which).

the only time i have ever seen rep change on a party member outside of this mechanic is one female who i cant remember but if you get high rep with rebyia she hates your guts cause shes in love with rebyia and, when i have gotten leaders in my party if you have say ruha and your hurt your rep with zargos towns he will get mad at you.
andy Jan 2, 2022 @ 2:32pm 
Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
you said the random events on the bottom left change rep with people in your party if you join a faction.

No, i didn't.

Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
which is not true and why i said the only thing that affects their rep regardless of if you are in a faction is the random event dialogue that pops up on the right side of the screen

here is proof that giving a gift to characters does not affect ones in your party using astrid and riq( who buy your list this should affect). https://imgur.com/a/tXREW0d

How many months have you been in a faction?

Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
yes they can be recaptured by why would take a rep hit because you cant be at war with a free state so you would negate your rep gain from freeing them in the first place.

I don't understand what you're saying here. My knowledge of english language is quite limited.

Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
capturing a town ONLY effects rep negativly if you use the lay seige at location here is me taking camp bell bazaar from bahat and not losing rep with him https://imgur.com/a/1pccpfd i need to iterate this REP is only affected in combat if you choose a side or not at war with a faction,

That's good, thank you.
andy Jan 2, 2022 @ 2:42pm 
Gaze upon this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2705594556

I defeated this guy in dozens of battles, destroyed both factions he joined, never recruited him, and got 100 rep with him faster than with half of my party.

Also, rep with Ruha increases when increasing rep with Umara. Probably he is her fan.
Last edited by andy; Jan 2, 2022 @ 2:44pm
Nauntingraund Jan 2, 2022 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by andy:
Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
you said the random events on the bottom left change rep with people in your party if you join a faction.

No, i didn't.

Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
which is not true and why i said the only thing that affects their rep regardless of if you are in a faction is the random event dialogue that pops up on the right side of the screen

here is proof that giving a gift to characters does not affect ones in your party using astrid and riq( who buy your list this should affect). https://imgur.com/a/tXREW0d

How many months have you been in a faction?

Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
yes they can be recaptured by why would take a rep hit because you cant be at war with a free state so you would negate your rep gain from freeing them in the first place.

I don't understand what you're saying here. My knowledge of english language is quite limited.

Originally posted by Nauntingraund:
capturing a town ONLY effects rep negativly if you use the lay seige at location here is me taking camp bell bazaar from bahat and not losing rep with him https://imgur.com/a/1pccpfd i need to iterate this REP is only affected in combat if you choose a side or not at war with a faction,

That's good, thank you.
i have 3 faction characters one at 227 days, one at 115, and one at 444

For the Free states thing, The idea that i put forth in my first comment is this, If you are at war with lets say 2 factions and you take a town from one of them and give it to the free states it gives you a hit in positive rep with that town, so lets say you are sultan and take hidden village from the nasir (after declaring war on them) it goes from 0 rep to 20, and if the nasir take it back over you can get another 20 rep( which higher rep affects the tier of troops you can recruit from village elders). and the second point i made is that while yes you could immediately re attack hidden village to take it for yourself i don't think the 20 rep is worth having to do a fight again when after beating the nasir you can just occupy it yourself and do commisons( unless you wanted to farm 100 rep by killing x faction over and over and keep giving it to the free sates.)
Nauntingraund Jan 2, 2022 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by andy:
Gaze upon this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2705594556

I defeated this guy in dozens of battles, destroyed both factions he joined, never recruited him, and got 100 rep with him faster than with half of my party.

Also, rep with Ruha increases when increasing rep with Umara. Probably he is her fan.
idk why he would have 100 rep with you but sweet, also that is kinda my earlier point about the governed thing when you get into combat with anyone in this game rep is never negatively affected if you are at war, im also like 70% sure that if you are attacked by a hostile npc who is a member of an allied faction and you kill them it does not affect your rep with that faction.

can you blame him for being a fan of umara?
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