The true ending of the Blair Witch (spoilers of course)

[Midnight77]

Ultimately, the canon ending is Carver. Everything leading up to what has become of Carver has already come to pass. The Blair Witch owns him now and makes him her puppet. Eliis, the younger good version, is trying to fight with himself and his demons to break the chain of what he has already done. Even breaking the chain isn't any good as everything has already come to pass and will repeat again for infinity. That is also why there are multiple playthroughs to try to get the better outcome but no matter how many times you play you really are never going to get a good outcome. A simple nod to the infinite loop is a single object to let you know you are caught in the loop - the battery. You should not be able to take it with you into the next game if you got it and yet you did. Then when you activate the radio you get to hear what happened to Peter which shouldn't be happening right now because you haven't found Peter yet but you did in the previous game. Also, the "Turn on your lights" scenario is another nod. This all becomes a chicken before the egg scenario but ultimately you are in a very sad infinite loop fighting your own demons pretty much for the entertainment of the Blair Witch. "She is Yours" or something like that is written on the walls in the house? Carver also writes several other things in the house as well as what happened to your ex that she left you. A nice thing about the collectors edition is that the artbook has all the psych doctors notes of when Ellis was a boy and his encounter as a child shows you how early on even in childhood he was damaged goods and marked by the Blair Witch. At the very beginning of the game when the video of the camcorder playing it shows 2 boys go into the woods. That was you as a child and your friend. Sadly, there are no happy endings for Ellis.

[Mad Mod]

I agree with everything you said except the canon ending is the "bad" ending. I would say that all endings are canon since it's a time loop. (Carver might've said the whole thing about Ellis killing bullet because that Carver, or another carver, choose to kill his bullet.)

Also there had to be a first Ellis, which would mean no carver for him. Then it would also mean that the chain could be broken and Ellis could make different choices for another outcome.

[Midnight77]

Originally posted by Mad Mod:

I agree with everything you said except the canon ending is the "bad" ending. I would say that all endings are canon since it's a time loop. (Carver might've said the whole thing about Ellis killing bullet because that Carver, or another carver, choose to kill his bullet.)

Also there had to be a first Ellis, which would mean no carver for him. Then it would also mean that the chain could be broken and Ellis could make different choices for another outcome.

I totally get where you going with this but check this out:

The original Ellis. No Carver. No Blair Witch. He goes through a traumatic experience in the woods when he is a kid where he has a slight brush with the Blair Witch. The therapy finds that he is drawn to the forest and is not cured but ultimately gets sent to enlist. He goes through the traumatic hell of war and then comes back home broken. Upon returning he helps the local sheriff. With the enlisted therapy dog Bullet he continues his work until he makes the fatal mistake of shooting an unarmed person. He loses his job, takes Bullet and gives up on life proceeding into the woods where he lives in his makeshift bunker hunting to survive while he slowly descends into madness as the forest takes hold. He "becomes" Carver while he encounters all the creatures of the forest, carves several wood totems, sets up the Blair Witch wards, etc. driving him into insanity. He kills his dog, Peter, the sheriff, the lumberjack and ultimately becomes "owned" by the Blair Witch as a puppet caught in an infinite web he cannot escape from. When the game begins his psyche wants to break the cycle of what he has done. He wants to be the good, pre Carver, Ellis so he arrives in the forest to save Peter. In his mind right now he doesn't know all that he has done. This is also why the Carver ending is canon because it is really what happens to him in real life until he's owned by the Blair Witch loop. No matter how many times he tries to solve it this cannot be undone because they are all already dead. Now he is just caught in an infinite loop of trying to fight his own demons and become something better but it doesn't matter which ending he will get because he's already been dead for a very long time or trapped forever at the whims of the Blair Witch. There's no way out for him. He will keep repeating the loop and go back to the bunker to find out what happened to Peter every time he starts at the beginning again.

[Mad Mod]

Originally posted by Midnight77:

Originally posted by Mad Mod:

I agree with everything you said except the canon ending is the "bad" ending. I would say that all endings are canon since it's a time loop. (Carver might've said the whole thing about Ellis killing bullet because that Carver, or another carver, choose to kill his bullet.)

Also there had to be a first Ellis, which would mean no carver for him. Then it would also mean that the chain could be broken and Ellis could make different choices for another outcome.

I totally get where you going with this but check this out:

The original Ellis. No Carver. No Blair Witch. He goes through a traumatic experience in the woods when he is a kid where he has a slight brush with the Blair Witch. The therapy finds that he is drawn to the forest and is not cured but ultimately gets sent to enlist. He goes through the traumatic hell of war and then comes back home broken. Upon returning he helps the local sheriff. With the enlisted therapy dog Bullet he continues his work until he makes the fatal mistake of shooting an unarmed person. He loses his job, takes Bullet and gives up on life proceeding into the woods where he lives in his makeshift bunker hunting to survive while he slowly descends into madness as the forest takes hold. He "becomes" Carver while he encounters all the creatures of the forest, carves several wood totems, sets up the Blair Witch wards, etc. driving him into insanity. He kills his dog, Peter, the sheriff, the lumberjack and ultimately becomes "owned" by the Blair Witch as a puppet caught in an infinite web he cannot escape from. When the game begins his psyche wants to break the cycle of what he has done. He wants to be the good, pre Carver, Ellis so he arrives in the forest to save Peter. In his mind right now he doesn't know all that he has done. This is also why the Carver ending is canon because it is really what happens to him in real life until he's owned by the Blair Witch loop. No matter how many times he tries to solve it this cannot be undone because they are all already dead. Now he is just caught in an infinite loop of trying to fight his own demons and become something better but it doesn't matter which ending he will get because he's already been dead for a very long time or trapped forever at the whims of the Blair Witch. There's no way out for him. He will keep repeating the loop and go back to the bunker to find out what happened to Peter every time he starts at the beginning again.

I think you lost me. Are you saying theres only one Ellis/Carver and and hes stuck in a mental loop and not a time loop? And that the ellis we play as is already carver and already killed the sheriff, lumberjack, and bullet before the game starts? If so that contradicts the after ending text.

[Midnight77]

Yep. He's stuck in some kind of loop mental/time/whatever but he's likely long dead. Whatever remains of him now is a puppet to the Blair Witch. What after ending text are you referring to? Maybe I missed this and need to check it out.

BONUS ENDING: I think this would also be a cool addition if Bloober added their own caviat to the 1996 version of Blair Witch in regards to being stuck in a loop. What if you truly could break the loop forever and free your soul from the Blair Witches grip? For example, if you didn't do what you were supposed to do normally in your loop. That would be getting the "good ending" but doing it just once wouldn't free you from the loop. Let's say you had to do it 4 times and playing the game 4 times in a row with the good ending would finally break your spirit free from the Blair Witch. The final ending would be seeing yourself leave the forest maybe with Bullet or something. That would've been a cool Easter Egg although I don't see anyone going out to complete the same ending multiple times. :)

[WolfishMeat7]

Originally posted by Midnight77:

Yep. He's stuck in some kind of loop mental/time/whatever but he's likely long dead. Whatever remains of him now is a puppet to the Blair Witch. What after ending text are you referring to? Maybe I missed this and need to check it out.

BONUS ENDING: I think this would also be a cool addition if Bloober added their own caviat to the 1996 version of Blair Witch in regards to being stuck in a loop. What if you truly could break the loop forever and free your soul from the Blair Witches grip? For example, if you didn't do what you were supposed to do normally in your loop. That would be getting the "good ending" but doing it just once wouldn't free you from the loop. Let's say you had to do it 4 times and playing the game 4 times in a row with the good ending would finally break your spirit free from the Blair Witch. The final ending would be seeing yourself leave the forest maybe with Bullet or something. That would've been a cool Easter Egg although I don't see anyone going out to complete the same ending multiple times. :)

nah,there different ending depending on your action,and outro text says different things after you beat the game,even the boy you are looking for may end up alive

[Anne Flank]

Originally posted by Mad Mod:

Originally posted by Midnight77:

I totally get where you going with this but check this out:

The original Ellis. No Carver. No Blair Witch. He goes through a traumatic experience in the woods when he is a kid where he has a slight brush with the Blair Witch. The therapy finds that he is drawn to the forest and is not cured but ultimately gets sent to enlist. He goes through the traumatic hell of war and then comes back home broken. Upon returning he helps the local sheriff. With the enlisted therapy dog Bullet he continues his work until he makes the fatal mistake of shooting an unarmed person. He loses his job, takes Bullet and gives up on life proceeding into the woods where he lives in his makeshift bunker hunting to survive while he slowly descends into madness as the forest takes hold. He "becomes" Carver while he encounters all the creatures of the forest, carves several wood totems, sets up the Blair Witch wards, etc. driving him into insanity. He kills his dog, Peter, the sheriff, the lumberjack and ultimately becomes "owned" by the Blair Witch as a puppet caught in an infinite web he cannot escape from. When the game begins his psyche wants to break the cycle of what he has done. He wants to be the good, pre Carver, Ellis so he arrives in the forest to save Peter. In his mind right now he doesn't know all that he has done. This is also why the Carver ending is canon because it is really what happens to him in real life until he's owned by the Blair Witch loop. No matter how many times he tries to solve it this cannot be undone because they are all already dead. Now he is just caught in an infinite loop of trying to fight his own demons and become something better but it doesn't matter which ending he will get because he's already been dead for a very long time or trapped forever at the whims of the Blair Witch. There's no way out for him. He will keep repeating the loop and go back to the bunker to find out what happened to Peter every time he starts at the beginning again.

I think you lost me. Are you saying theres only one Ellis/Carver and and hes stuck in a mental loop and not a time loop? And that the ellis we play as is already carver and already killed the sheriff, lumberjack, and bullet before the game starts? If so that contradicts the after ending text.

For my own sake, he's right