Not enough Bluebell Seeds to upgrade the Elven Weapons

[It'll Bee OK]

Did anyone actually find a way around this? I experimented with all the weapons I found. Ohhh bad idea. inXile decided you should be punished for that. Most of the elven weapons use bluebell seeds and they're also the rarest in the game. It's literally impossible to upgrade all the elven weapons.

This is not a 'hard choices' thing, we have no way of knowing, this is a dumb programmer thing. So unless there's a glitch to reset merchants, you're stuck with weapons you'll never be able to unlock.

[Cursed Life]

Most of them are trash anyway

[svdp]

If you've used them to unlock the Elven puzzle weapons, they should already be unlocked? At least most of them? I'm not sure whether it's truly impossible to cover ALL weapons with bluebells, so I can't confirm nor deny it, but apart from the merchants you also have the offer-stones and the Trow stashes which might contain bluebells; are you sure you found/tried all of those?

[It'll Bee OK]

Originally posted by svdp:

If you've used them to unlock the Elven puzzle weapons, they should already be unlocked? At least most of them? I'm not sure whether it's truly impossible to cover ALL weapons with bluebells, so I can't confirm nor deny it, but apart from the merchants you also have the offer-stones and the Trow stashes which might contain bluebells; are you sure you found/tried all of those?

Naw you will find many more puzzle weapons than there are bluebells in the game. This is a common complaint. You need 3 to fully unlock elven weapons. There's a scarce few in vendors (that never respawn) then it's just up to RNG drops in the game. So if you're playing through, spoil all the weapons ahead of time so you know which ones are worth bluebells. The other colors you won't run out of, just bluebells. I'm really hoping there's a vendor glitch somewhere.

[svdp]

Originally posted by It'll Bee OK:

Originally posted by svdp:

If you've used them to unlock the Elven puzzle weapons, they should already be unlocked? At least most of them? I'm not sure whether it's truly impossible to cover ALL weapons with bluebells, so I can't confirm nor deny it, but apart from the merchants you also have the offer-stones and the Trow stashes which might contain bluebells; are you sure you found/tried all of those?

Naw you will find many more puzzle weapons than there are bluebells in the game. This is a common complaint. You need 3 to fully unlock elven weapons. There's a scarce few in vendors (that never respawn) then it's just up to RNG drops in the game. So if you're playing through, spoil all the weapons ahead of time so you know which ones are worth bluebells. The other colors you won't run out of, just bluebells. I'm really hoping there's a vendor glitch somewhere.

Well, if it's really important to have all the elven weapons with bluebells - most dwarven weapons and master-crafted weapons you get when you're a bit higher level are better though - you can always ask chilkoot and see if he can hex some in your gamefile.

[It'll Bee OK]

It's just a lame oversight. I'm on the point of no return. I've cleared every quest in the game. And I'm short 4 bluebells to finish upgrading the late game elven weapons that take bluebells. Now compare that to all the other colors, which I have 6-10 of at this point. Almost nothing takes the white ones or purple ones. Yellow is semi-common, but almost everything takes blue. It's just such a bad oversight by the devs. Why these things are so rare in drops is beyond me. It's not an economy thing, you will have more items than any vendor has gold by the late game. I'm literally destroying master crafted items as I play because there's nobody left to sell anything to who has gold and I need inv space.

I don't *need* to upgrade all the elven weapons, but the completionist in me wants to. Plus, as I pointed out, you'll finish the game with an abundance of every other color. If they do patch this game again it's something they should address.

Lets say you try to save scum fights to get them to drop from RNG. It's roughly a 1 in 20 chance a gem/seed drops. Then it's a 1 in 4 chance it's a bluebell. So good luck farming them unless you're a masochist. Simple solution? Increase the vendor stock count by 2 or 3 at each vendor. There's even an offering that needs bluebells which I'll never finish.

[Chilkoot]

inXile dropped the ball on communicating that the seeds were supposed to be a rarity and introduce "difficult choices" to the weapon upgrade paths. The whole thing feels half-baked, really, and this is a resource and management issue in the dev. process that's common at inXile - or at least it was for titles released before MS bought them out.

[It'll Bee OK]

Originally posted by Chilkoot:

inXile dropped the ball on communicating that the seeds were supposed to be a rarity and introduce "difficult choices" to the weapon upgrade paths. The whole thing feels half-baked, really, and this is a resource and management issue in the dev. process that's common at inXile - or at least it was for titles released before MS bought them out.

Yeah I'm kinda bummed, by the time I got 'Downfall', the only rogue-wieldable off hand caustic weapon, I was out of bluebells. Still just going to go ahead and go past the point of no return. It's been a fun game no doubt. And some of the combat can be pretty creative. I even put it on the hardest difficulty for a challenge.

Some of the quests are super vague on what order they need to be done in. That's why I didn't unlock the healing class till way late. But it's stupid OP, it has a 'curse spreader' which lets you take 1 stunned or charmed person and make everyone around them stunned/charmed. It's hilarious with the skill that makes a random enemy unit fall in love with your bard.

[svdp]

Aha, yes, I thought to mention it in my former post. Yes, for a completionist it can be annoying, I guess.

But anyway, from just the completionist pov (for unlocking all those elven weapons), some hexxed bluebells would do the trick as well.

As for the.. - cleric class, I assume? - I must honestly say I never tried it (curse spreader) neither. Didn't realize it was that good (well, against groups, I presume, since it won't be much use for a single mid-boss). It's pretty weird though, because I once saw a dude on these forums claim the cleric class was absolutely worthless, while you now says it's OP.

I mostly used it for the healing&reviving skill, but I never realized it had such other great potential. I'll try it out on my current third playthrough.

[Chilkoot]

Originally posted by svdp:

I once saw a dude on these forums claim the cleric class was absolutely worthless

I suspect they didn't even look at the skill tree. The passives alone are generally best-in-game for per-skill value.

The usefulness of the active skills will vary from player to player, but some of the Haernhold fights appear to be designed with the expectation that Cleric skills are available to the player.

[Kittybass]

I always use the cleric tree, although it varies from game to game who I pick to have the skill. I haven't tried the curse spreader yet though, that sounds fun. Lately I've been giving my fighters (warriors and rogue) the passives that give you bonus damage against undead and charn and heal. Sometimes I have my bard act as a healer but I never went far enough down that side of the tree for the curse spreader. I must try that! I'm always looking for fun/different things to do.

As far as the bluebells go, yeah they are in short supply. In one of my recent saves I was really lucky with random drops and had more than I needed. That pretty much never happens. I only use bluebells sparingly to upgrade specific Elven weapons. And if I have one to spare for the offering by the Necromancer's Tower for the Devil's Brew, but I usually skip that because I don't normally have enough to spare.