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When you look at all they've reworked (visuals, netcode, crossplay, story mode, gameplay...) in addition to new content, Rising is effectively a sequel, so I understand why they might not have wanted to go "okay here's your free upgrade"... And remember Cygames and ASW are companies, so even if Cygames in particular may have the funds to do this thanks to the gacha they probably wouldn't.
Now what would be nice to see is a permanent price cut for the original (since it's not actively played anymore) and a way to unlock all of the Battle Pass items (they're unlockable in Rising), plus DLC for the missing announcer packs (that never made their way to the Western version).
I am not getting into the rollback debate again, this has been discussed to death since the game's release but it's definitely not as simple to implement as you seem to think it is.
Now I went over multiple times why Cygames should Definitely upgrade this to Rising. At first I thought a discount was enough, if what you received was a "full game", which we now know that is not the case. What $50 gets you is the "base game", which is essentially this game + rollback and crossplay, maybe one or two more characters, do not try to defend this as a justification as to why they should neglect their responsibility to their supporters, unless you're openly admitting your a corporate shill, how does this or your take benefit previous supporters? Offering the "base" game free of charge for previous owners seems fair and logical, it would get previous owners back on board, and it would revitalize Rising, which is already losing steam. Clearly Cygames is charging $50 extra for Season passes, which is downright robbery, and if your defending them because you think that is their "right", robbing people is not a "right", so I can't take you seriously.
All I wanted to say through my original message is that I don't see an issue with keeping the original available on Steam (and I strongly doubt they'll make it free especially given how greedy they are, but putting it dirt cheap even outside of sales would better mark it as the older game; not to mention it's probably up to Marvelous as the publisher anyway), and if you ask me there *are* legitimate reasons behind Rising being a separate game (even though again, yes, this is a pretty terrible deal for people who invested lots of time and money into GBVS and it's a much better one for newcomers).
And to be clear: (fighting) games getting sequels or new iterations is nothing new, and I'm all up for redirecting newcomers to the latest entry; in fact I've already done that many times, including for GBVS. I also understand it can be confusing for people who aren't used to fighting games in particular. But at the same time, people buying GBVS instead of GBVSR because they didn't take five minutes to check the difference or ask about it is no skin off my back, and even then there are still options for them to backtrack.
Anyway, let's just agree to disagree since I can see this "discussion" is going nowhere. Good luck getting GBVS delisted.
I didn't realize buying a fighting game, which the main focus is multiplayer more so than single player experience, being dead on arrival = getting what you paid for. This was something they needed to "fix", not "replace". When you sell something on the premise that it's Online PvP and Online Co-op, I expect this to be a fully functional feature, not having a broken unplayable netcode, which resulted in full abandonment from players, and Rising delivering the final nail in the coffin. So yeah I do feel they owe Versus players a better online experience, otherwise they scammed people under a false promise, that's fraud, but yeah we've establish their greed have no issues scamming people.
I don't think delisting it helps anyone. But it's incredibly daft to keep the prices where they are even during sales.
I'm actually waiting for the game to go on sale again for $2~$4 so I can play the Story/RPG Mode before playing Relink with friends.
Even if I did already own GBFV, I wouldn't want a free upgrade to GBFV:R if it meant GBFV was gonna be removed from my library in exchange for GBFV:R.
I heard Rising literally ruined the RPG Mode by removing the leveling, equipment and grind from it which is pretty much the core gameplay of an "RPG Mode" just because people didn't want to do all of that in the original game just to do the story so they dumbed it down.
Normally I'd just buy the game for the $20 but since I already know it has gone on sale for $2~$4 a few times before, I'll wait since I'd only play it for roughly however long the RPG Mode is.
Which I heard is roughly 15~20 hours in the original due to looting/upgrading/crafting/etc
while in Rising it was dumbed down to roughly 8 hours and that's with the new "3rd Arc".
I couldn't give a rats ass about Rising since I don't care to play online fighting games so the original game still has a purpose for literally that reason alone.
I do hope, however, that this idea of yours never comes to fruition. Rising has not made this game redundant because Rising is hardly the same game at all, it borders on a different sub-genre of 2d fighter. Frankly, it doesn't even deserve to have GBVS in the name. If they removed it from the store they wouldn't only have killed my favourite fighting game but stopped me from sharing my love of it with others online ever again.
Even if they removed it, it would still be in your library, as long as you purchased it before it was removed. But your argument is invalid because you don't own the game. What you want is to buy the game for $2 and think that gives you a stake in this argument. My argument is for people who purchased the game before Rising announcement, who didn't get the luxury to make a choice between the two, you don't qualify.
Sorry but I have no intention to play this game with crap delay-based netcode, nor do I play with losers. If Cygames took my advice and fixed this game with rollback netcode, maybe I'll consider it, but as it stands this dumpster-fire belongs in the abyss where it currently resides and I hope they go bankrupt, they certainly don't seem to be doing so hot, serves them right.
I hope they give this game rollback too though, it deserves better.
If you change your mind about playing feel free to add me. I'd still rather suffer through the delay than play Rising...
I like GBF:V more than GBFV:R. If i have a chance which to recommend, i recommend this game. If GBFV:R something good to offer (because it also have bad things to offer), i can be added as a dlc to GBF:V.