ONE PIECE: PIRATE WARRIORS 4

ONE PIECE: PIRATE WARRIORS 4

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Sanji LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE because female characters.
WHY IS THIS STILL IN THE GAME. I literally have to choose the right episode or this character can't do damage. This is not funny, it's not some sort of cool particular feature, it's just ANNOYING.

Please remove it so i can actually play Sanji
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dont play jump force then atleast sanji can actually hit women somewhat in this lol.
you do know you can just download a few mods to solve most of this issues right? this topic was an issue in 3 and some modders made a "fix" to allow sanji to attack woman its also been redone for 4

also the whole canon argument is null on this game as the devs threw out 80% of it to fit the game. As to the other argument where devs dont add lore/game breaking content like futeristic stuff to a game bassed in older times you apparently dont play many games aqs this is done in like 90% of games and alot fo dlc just say screw the game lore most the time that includes assassin creed
Ultima modifica da Nagisa; 9 mag 2021, ore 4:31
People still forget my arguement that i play nicely with Sanji, it just adds bit more challenge.
Gonna be honest, the Sanji not being able to attack women thing is pure stupid for a Warriors style game. Yes i understand how it ''fits the canon'' but if that was the case then why doesnt he spew blood from his nose for a bunch of missions when he sees a female character? Why is it ONLY Sanji who has a canon style deterrent? You dont see Smoker doing extra damage to fruit users due to his Sea Stone weapon, thats canon. You dont see Crocodile taking extra damage from liquid attacks, thats canon. Frankie doesnt need to recharge his Cola, thats canon and used rather a lot in the show. This list can go on for a while.

The canon argument is stupid and the people using it as a defence know its stupid. At the very least it should have been an option to toggle, its a fun idea for a map or two but it does literally kill his character for a game like this.
Messaggio originale di Arevi:
Gonna be honest, the Sanji not being able to attack women thing is pure stupid for a Warriors style game. Yes i understand how it ''fits the canon'' but if that was the case then why doesnt he spew blood from his nose for a bunch of missions when he sees a female character? Why is it ONLY Sanji who has a canon style deterrent? You dont see Smoker doing extra damage to fruit users due to his Sea Stone weapon, thats canon. You dont see Crocodile taking extra damage from liquid attacks, thats canon. Frankie doesnt need to recharge his Cola, thats canon and used rather a lot in the show. This list can go on for a while.

The canon argument is stupid and the people using it as a defence know its stupid. At the very least it should have been an option to toggle, its a fun idea for a map or two but it does literally kill his character for a game like this.
Why do i always have to repeat that this is not a problem and just makes playing as Sanji more careful. Why do i perfectly play as Sanji?
Just a character with his own unique fighting style, not being able to hit women with normal attacks is a part of it.

In gameplay terms, you have a character who can hit a certain type of enemies only with special attacks. And it's easier to play than as Usopp, who has to set traps.
Messaggio originale di Keytee Tamira:
Messaggio originale di Arevi:
Gonna be honest, the Sanji not being able to attack women thing is pure stupid for a Warriors style game. Yes i understand how it ''fits the canon'' but if that was the case then why doesnt he spew blood from his nose for a bunch of missions when he sees a female character? Why is it ONLY Sanji who has a canon style deterrent? You dont see Smoker doing extra damage to fruit users due to his Sea Stone weapon, thats canon. You dont see Crocodile taking extra damage from liquid attacks, thats canon. Frankie doesnt need to recharge his Cola, thats canon and used rather a lot in the show. This list can go on for a while.

The canon argument is stupid and the people using it as a defence know its stupid. At the very least it should have been an option to toggle, its a fun idea for a map or two but it does literally kill his character for a game like this.
Why do i always have to repeat that this is not a problem and just makes playing as Sanji more careful. Why do i perfectly play as Sanji?
Just a character with his own unique fighting style, not being able to hit women with normal attacks is a part of it.

In gameplay terms, you have a character who can hit a certain type of enemies only with special attacks. And it's easier to play than as Usopp, who has to set traps.

Good job, slow clap, you can play a character. That doesnt change anything i said and the fact you are ignoring it shows your bias.

In gameplay terms you have a character who has a restriction that no other character has for no reason other than humor. It isnt for canon as explained through the lack of canon in other characters.

This has NOTHING to do with your personal likes or dislikes for the character in question. It keeps coming up because it remains an issue.

Once again an option to turn this off would allow the fanbois like yourself to cream over Sanji not being useful while the people who just want to play a GAME can do so normally.
Messaggio originale di Arevi:
Messaggio originale di Keytee Tamira:
Why do i always have to repeat that this is not a problem and just makes playing as Sanji more careful. Why do i perfectly play as Sanji?
Just a character with his own unique fighting style, not being able to hit women with normal attacks is a part of it.

In gameplay terms, you have a character who can hit a certain type of enemies only with special attacks. And it's easier to play than as Usopp, who has to set traps.

Good job, slow clap, you can play a character. That doesnt change anything i said and the fact you are ignoring it shows your bias.

In gameplay terms you have a character who has a restriction that no other character has for no reason other than humor. It isnt for canon as explained through the lack of canon in other characters.

This has NOTHING to do with your personal likes or dislikes for the character in question. It keeps coming up because it remains an issue.

Once again an option to turn this off would allow the fanbois like yourself to cream over Sanji not being useful while the people who just want to play a GAME can do so normally.


Why i am suddenly am a fanboy?

If i would be a fanboy, i would've love any piece of One Piece media, yet i don't.

Simply because i defend this gameplay element makes me a fanboy?
Even though i just love to make counter-arguements.

If this thread would be about loving Sanji's gameplay gimmick, i would've argued against that.

I just want to expand people's minds to have multiple opinions at the same time.
Messaggio originale di Arevi:
Gonna be honest, the Sanji not being able to attack women thing is pure stupid for a Warriors style game. Yes i understand how it ''fits the canon'' but if that was the case then why doesnt he spew blood from his nose for a bunch of missions when he sees a female character? Why is it ONLY Sanji who has a canon style deterrent? You dont see Smoker doing extra damage to fruit users due to his Sea Stone weapon, thats canon. You dont see Crocodile taking extra damage from liquid attacks, thats canon. Frankie doesnt need to recharge his Cola, thats canon and used rather a lot in the show. This list can go on for a while.

The canon argument is stupid and the people using it as a defence know its stupid. At the very least it should have been an option to toggle, its a fun idea for a map or two but it does literally kill his character for a game like this.
Half the things you mentioned there as "canon" was almost completely false.

Smoker's weapon doesn't do "extra damage" to fruit users, it just weakens them when they touch it. That isn't extra damage.

Crocodile, I guess he can take damage from liquid attacks. But who other than Jimbei and Smoothie can shoot water? and one of them wasn't even in the base game. A bit of a pointless feature for Crocodile to take a bit more damage from SOME of Jimbei's attacks.

What do you want with that Franky bit anyway? Him to literally just pull a cola bottle out his pocket and then put it back into his body?
It wouldn't even be a weakness, we'd just see him holding a cola bottle every 5 minutes, and since you can easily end a match in less than 9 minutes that'd be a bit pointless, no?

When it comes to Sanji, his entire character is literally built off of being a womaniser. You're saying you should just have Sanji hit women? You might as well have that one legged chef then.
To make Sanji hit women intentionally is like having Luffy be some sophisticated character who's special moves bore people to sleep with lectures about quantum electrodynamics.
It's stupid and goes against their entire character.
Messaggio originale di Mori Dan:
What do you want with that Franky bit anyway? Him to literally just pull a cola bottle out his pocket and then put it back into his body?
It wouldn't even be a weakness, we'd just see him holding a cola bottle every 5 minutes, and since you can easily end a match in less than 9 minutes that'd be a bit pointless, no?
I do remember in one One Piece Pirate Warriors game Franky did require to recharge cola for some attacks.
I do think that it's way too restrictive, but i also think it's correct, just not to this point. make it so sanji has insanely low stats when he fights women, or that hitting him cause him some random status effect, but that way it's just ridiculous. they it cuts the momentum also leave you wide open to other attacks, and that way you can't even attack a non-female enemies that close to one.
Ultima modifica da Iddough; 26 mag 2021, ore 19:19
Messaggio originale di Kiddo317:
I do think that it's way too restrictive, but i also think it's correct, just not to this point. make it so sanji has insanely low stats when he fights women, or that hitting him cause him some random status effect, but that way it's just ridiculous. they it cuts the momentum also leave you wide open to other attacks, and that way you can't even attack a non-female enemies that close to one.

Just run away from women, beat some foot soldiers, charge specials and then use specials on women, it's easy...
Messaggio originale di Kiddo317:
Messaggio originale di Keytee Tamira:

Just run away from women, beat some foot soldiers, charge specials and then use specials on women, it's easy...
but it's boring and kills the momentum. there's no need to do anything over-the-top for that.

Not as boring as playing as Technical-type characters.
Messaggio originale di Mori Dan:
Messaggio originale di 0Gold0:

exactly you fkn moron. ITS A GAME YOU DIP. thats why sanji should be able to hit women.
CUZ..... ITS...... A....... GAME.
No, my point is there are certain points in games where you just can't stray from the source material too much.

It's like if in Assassin's Creed Odyssey (Ancient Greece) Just added flying Ninja robots cos It's "a game". So shut the ♥♥♥♥ up you moron. You clearly have no idea what the ♥♥♥♥ you're talking about, pipe down and go back to Minecraft. :winter2019angrygingerbread:

To be fair, they could have just done what they did in jump force, turn all of sanjis attacks into love attacks where instead he hits them with hearts and kisses that still do dmg and it would still be canon as 90% of the time Sanji's advances disgust women. IDK I love one piece so much but honestly this does seem very much like a design flaw. imo you cant say this is an entirely stupid argument then defend the other video game only choices the game makes. it IS a video game and things are changed here and there to make it more accessable as a video game, aka all the other changes people have mentioned, They could find a work around for this specific thing and also do something to keep it closer to the source material, again changing his attacks to the love esc attacks instead. Plus someone mentioned that it would be cool if like Zoros map was inverted which actually brings up a good point. If the fact is like you seem to be saying that you cant be mad at this sanji choice AT ALL because its part of the shows lore and they want to keep it that way then why does Zoro have a totally normal fully functional map? I just mean to say it feels like you're picking a choosing which changes are okay and which have to happen because of lore. If sanji HAS to have a women handicap that actively affects your gameplay then Zoro should HAVE to play with a messed up map that also affects your gameplay yet its not because "Video game" All im trying to say, with bad grammar which im sorry for, is that I think this is def a reasonable complaint to have, there are other work arounds and they dont go to these lengths for each piece of lore so I see no reason it HAS to be this way. But all this respectfully I respect your opinion that its totally warnented due to the lore, I just think disliking this fact is also at the very least reasonable. Would you agree? I'm curious.
Ultima modifica da T o o m a; 4 ago 2022, ore 20:27
Messaggio originale di Keytee Tamira:
Messaggio originale di Mickey Mouse:
Which throws your arguments out of the window since

“SaNjI IsN'T SaNjI If He HiTs GiRlS aNd I WoN't PlAy SaNjI If He DaMaGe GiRls",

followed by

"YoU CaN HiT GiRls WiTh SaNjI WiTh SaNjI's SpEcIaL SuPeR PoWeRfUl SiGnAtUrE MuSoU MoVeS!"

You realize that is literally saying, oh Sanji wouldn't slap a girl because he is true to character but hey you can always make sanji shoot girls with bazookas.

Just admit that it is a stupid gimmick.

Because he isn't attacking girls, he's merely doesn't notice them when he uses special attacks.

Positive Un-Logic is better than negative un-logic.

Thats not a fair argument at all lmao, you can single out a woman and target her and use an ultimate on them. I agree with keeping it close to the lore but as i said to someone else, they could done like jump force and made all his attacks hearts and stuff instead and gave him super reduced dmg. This really does kill the pace and make finishing a mission as sanji pretty tedious. I dont think they should just let sanji smack women around but I do think its at the very least reasonable to think in this case specifically its pretty annoying. I do agree with the other post though that it IS a little backhanded to say its because sanji cant hit women and lore so it HAS to be this way, then yeah....he can literally kick the ♥♥♥♥ out of any of them if he uses an ultimate that honestly is contradictory to the argument of lore. Sorry I just got the game and googled this bc i was playing as him and i couldnt figure out of i could dmg women at all, and i found this post. I dont mind it overall but i cant say im not a little upset bc I love sanji but id rather not play as him now bc of that. Yet Zoro has no map trouble at all.
Dude. This is all the way back from may in 2021. lmfao.
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