Sanji LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE because female characters.

[Lato]

WHY IS THIS STILL IN THE GAME. I literally have to choose the right episode or this character can't do damage. This is not funny, it's not some sort of cool particular feature, it's just ANNOYING.

Please remove it so i can actually play Sanji

[Mori Dan]

Originally posted by TheQueenLilith:

Originally posted by Panhandle:

Who has employed logic like that? Zoro having three swords doesn't reduce his playability. The game isn't really concerned with accurately depicting the series mechanics for the majority of characters.

More accurate would be: imagine if they let Zoro see the minimap despite a major character flaw of his being that he is terrible with directions. Oh wait, they do give Zoro a minimap. Because removing it would seriously reduce his playability. Kinda like making it difficult for Sanji to reliably injure a chunk of the characters in the game.

Sanji can still damage women, though...use a special move. They're the best way to take out strong targets anyway. If you're not using them against strong targets, you're gonna have a rough time against ANY character.

Removing the minimap would literally make the character playable 0% of the time. To call that a fair comparison is laughable and just shows that you can't think logically about this.

I agree so far, but how does the lack of a minimap prevent playability? It's incredibly easy to memorise basically all of the maps. And for the missions where you have to go eliminate someone, you just look towards the biggest group and battle.

There's ways around not using the minimap. It's not like it being gone prevents combos or something. It's just harder to find your way around. Unless you're doing a map conquer mission, in which case, you're screwed.

I'd say about 50% playability reduced, not 100%.

[Pandle]

Originally posted by TheQueenLilith:

Sanji can still damage women, though...use a special move. They're the best way to take out strong targets anyway. If you're not using them against strong targets, you're gonna have a rough time against ANY character.

Removing the minimap would literally make the character playable 0% of the time. To call that a fair comparison is laughable and just shows that you can't think logically about this.

The person I responded to likened asking for Sanji to be able to damage female characters with anything but a special move to asking for Zoro to only have one sword. That comparison was trash, so I made a better comparison. I'd argue that removing the minimap for Zoro makes him only somewhat more awkward to play as as Sanji currently is. Preserving "canon" elements of the game at the severe cost of playability is ridiculous and Sanji is practically the only example of it, with many other characters and mechanics totally ignoring how said characters/mechanics work in the series. They could've employed the exact same thing with non-Haki users vs Logia - only specials hurt them. But they didn't because that would make a big chunk of the roster a lot more difficult to play as.

To Mori Dan: Memorising every map in the game is an idiotic thing to suggest when practically every Warriors-style game has offered a minimap because memorising every map in the game isn't worth anyone's time and would presumably turn the majority of casual players off the game.

[Void]

Originally posted by Panhandle:

Originally posted by TheQueenLilith:

Sanji can still damage women, though...use a special move. They're the best way to take out strong targets anyway. If you're not using them against strong targets, you're gonna have a rough time against ANY character.

Removing the minimap would literally make the character playable 0% of the time. To call that a fair comparison is laughable and just shows that you can't think logically about this.

The person I responded to likened asking for Sanji to be able to damage female characters with anything but a special move to asking for Zoro to only have one sword. That comparison was trash, so I made a better comparison. I'd argue that removing the minimap for Zoro makes him only somewhat more awkward to play as as Sanji currently is. Preserving "canon" elements of the game at the severe cost of playability is ridiculous and Sanji is practically the only example of it, with many other characters and mechanics totally ignoring how said characters/mechanics work in the series. They could've employed the exact same thing with non-Haki users vs Logia - only specials hurt them. But they didn't because that would make a big chunk of the roster a lot more difficult to play as.

To Mori Dan: Memorising every map in the game is an idiotic thing to suggest when practically every Warriors-style game has offered a minimap because memorising every map in the game isn't worth anyone's time and would presumably turn the majority of casual players off the game.

Also memorizing the maps is useless as you have objectives that asks you to go back and forth between areas in the map, and also territory controls.

[Mori Dan]

Originally posted by Bushido:

Originally posted by Panhandle:

The person I responded to likened asking for Sanji to be able to damage female characters with anything but a special move to asking for Zoro to only have one sword. That comparison was trash, so I made a better comparison. I'd argue that removing the minimap for Zoro makes him only somewhat more awkward to play as as Sanji currently is. Preserving "canon" elements of the game at the severe cost of playability is ridiculous and Sanji is practically the only example of it, with many other characters and mechanics totally ignoring how said characters/mechanics work in the series. They could've employed the exact same thing with non-Haki users vs Logia - only specials hurt them. But they didn't because that would make a big chunk of the roster a lot more difficult to play as.

To Mori Dan: Memorising every map in the game is an idiotic thing to suggest when practically every Warriors-style game has offered a minimap because memorising every map in the game isn't worth anyone's time and would presumably turn the majority of casual players off the game.

Also memorizing the maps is useless as you have objectives that asks you to go back and forth between areas in the map, and also territory controls.

But it's not that hard, it's not even any effort. After playing enough matches you'll naturally memorize the maps.

[Pandle]

Originally posted by Mori Dan:

But it's not that hard, it's not even any effort. After playing enough matches you'll naturally memorize the maps.

No? I've played every Pirate Warriors game and almost every warrior-style game and I've never memorised a map after playing it a few times. Willing to bet the majority of people haven't.

[Mori Dan]

Originally posted by Panhandle:

Originally posted by Mori Dan:

But it's not that hard, it's not even any effort. After playing enough matches you'll naturally memorize the maps.

No? I've played every Pirate Warriors game and almost every warrior-style game and I've never memorised a map after playing it a few times. Willing to bet the majority of people haven't.

oh, nevermind then.

[Captain Stitch]

- yeah it was kinda annoying.
Do you guys remember Burningblood?
That was awful when your Fav Character is sanji and your opponent picked big tittie waifus making your Super Simp sanji even more useless haha.

jokes aside.
Its kinda dull but the work around is landing special moves in their Vicinity.
Its super sad for those Sanji Fans/mains (i like him and play him once in while but totally avoided him cuz of this)
I only play The Admirals , Zoro Mihawk and Croco anyway :S
Love my AoE dmg boys and my two super destroyer melee man

[Stefan]

Originally posted by Lato:

Originally posted by Mori Dan:

No, my point is there are certain points in games where you just can't stray from the source material too much.

It's like if in Assassin's Creed Odyssey (Ancient Greece) Just added flying Ninja robots cos It's "a game". So shut the ♥♥♥♥ up you moron. You clearly have no idea what the ♥♥♥♥ you're talking about, pipe down and go back to Minecraft. :winter2019angrygingerbread:

imagine thinking this game is more difficult than minecraft

Imagine complaining on a game that you consider easier than minecraft

[CODEed1]

Source material or not, making a core member of the Straw Hats unable to attack half the characters in this game makes Sanji completely useless to play as. He's a great character, but he isn't fun to use in this game (IMO) unless you're some sort of masochist.

Everyone needs to chill and stop acting like angry teenagers. Don't bring your toxicity into another good thing please.

[Mori Dan]

Originally posted by CODEed1:

Source material or not, making a core member of the Straw Hats unable to attack half the characters in this game makes Sanji completely useless to play as. He's a great character, but he isn't fun to use in this game (IMO) unless you're some sort of masochist.

Everyone needs to chill and stop acting like angry teenagers. Don't bring your toxicity into another good thing please.

It's 7 out of 40, please tell how that is "half the characters"

[Mr. Fancy Pants. Bot.]

Use super on girl characters it's not rocket science. :'D I almost S every mission with sanji with or without girls. You manage your supers girls are no problem. It's really not hard. Being able to hit girls with normal attacks as well would be EXTREMELY awkward for canon sake. I'm kind of annoyed that he can hit girls period but I let it go for balance sake because then it would be COMPLETELY impossible to do anything with Sanji. But still being able to super girls just not normal attack is fine with me. Again it's not rocket science just big brain it and you will win.

[Keytee Tamira]

Originally posted by Lato:

WHY IS THIS STILL IN THE GAME. I literally have to choose the right episode or this character can't do damage. This is not funny, it's not some sort of cool particular feature, it's just ANNOYING.

Please remove it so i can actually play Sanji

First: SANJI CAN HIT THEM WHEN HE USES SPECIAL ATTACKS.
Second: the rest of your responses is just whining. "It's not justified! They have no pre-timeskip Franky, they have no Post-timeskip Crocodile! " Apparently you imply that not having certain characters is the same as making character uncanonical.

Seriously, i hate that you remind me too much of myself. I used to whine a lot in the same way as you do. Not to mention that i whined to myself right now because i lost a hour of progress...
So please, stop whining, stop reminding me of mysef.

[Keytee Tamira]

Originally posted by SentientToast:

Use super on girl characters it's not rocket science. :'D I almost S every mission with sanji with or without girls. You manage your supers girls are no problem. It's really not hard. Being able to hit girls with normal attacks as well would be EXTREMELY awkward for canon sake. I'm kind of annoyed that he can hit girls period but I let it go for balance sake because then it would be COMPLETELY impossible to do anything with Sanji. But still being able to super girls just not normal attack is fine with me. Again it's not rocket science just big brain it and you will win.

Indeed.

So, a reminder to all whiners, i will repeat this great person's message OUT LOUD in short:

SANJI CAN HIT GIRLS WITH SUPER ATTACKS!!!!!!

[Mori Dan]

Originally posted by Keytee Tamira:

Originally posted by SentientToast:

Use super on girl characters it's not rocket science. :'D I almost S every mission with sanji with or without girls. You manage your supers girls are no problem. It's really not hard. Being able to hit girls with normal attacks as well would be EXTREMELY awkward for canon sake. I'm kind of annoyed that he can hit girls period but I let it go for balance sake because then it would be COMPLETELY impossible to do anything with Sanji. But still being able to super girls just not normal attack is fine with me. Again it's not rocket science just big brain it and you will win.

Indeed.

So, a reminder to all whiners, i will repeat this great person's message OUT LOUD in short:

SANJI CAN HIT GIRLS WITH SUPER ATTACKS!!!!!!

It's amusing how their argument revolves around how Sanji can't attack 7/40 characters.

[Chum Gum]

Can't believe there are so many idiots defending this useless quirk of Sanji.

It is a game, if it were supposed to be fully canon then Nami shouldn't be allowed to even damage Kaido. Why is Luffy allowed to damage Whitebeard when in the manga he wouldn't hurt the old man because "ace likes this old man".

Also people saying "pick someone else", doesn't understand that people paid for Sanji and his numerous DLCs to play him in the game and should be allowed to. Heck this game doesn't have character switching so you can't even switch out and work around the problem if you tried. So you are stuck locked out of all the stages with female characters if you want to play as Sanji.

We'd be okay if they maybe just reduced damage done to female character instead of having his attacks entirely bounce off. That is just stupid decision making.

I can't believe in 2020 people still can't think critically and see a stupid decision for a stupid decision.