How Old Is Everyone?

[Wes]

After finding out that Laezel is the youngest in the party so far,, it made me want to create this topic regarding the age of our companions.

Below were my original guesses, even if I was totally off about Laezel at the time. I also doubt any companion will be under the age of 18 for obvious reasons. 🔞

Gale & Wyll are 30+ years old.

Shadowheart & Astarion are around 23 to 28 in human years.

I thought Laezel was the oldest,, who still dreamed of being the highest ranked soldier? 👩‍✈️ 🎖️ But she's barely old enough to get a drink in my country,, if she lived in most parts of the USA.

So that must mean Karlach is probably the same age,, or even younger than Laezel? If it's later revealed that she's 18,, imma call B.S from whoever wrote her character lol.

What are your guesses based on appearance,, personality,, etc.

[WeebSlayer]

You can find Astarions age in game, or atleast his age before Cazador turned him, he was in his 30s iirc

If you play Shadowhearts story you'll find that she is older than 40, shes half elf so it makes sense

Wyll took the pact at 17 and was exiled from BG and we meet him 7 years after that. so hes ~24.

Laezel was written to be in her early 20's

Gale? who knows honestly, he was older enough to be an archmage and ♥♥♥♥ god of magic

Halsin is 300+ years old

Karlach, unsure its never revealed. We know she was sold to Zariel 10 years prior to the Nautaloid and she worked as a bodyguard before that. So atleast 30 +

[jonnin]

Publicado originalmente por WeebSlayer:

You can find Astarions age in game, or atleast his age before Cazador turned him, he was in his 30s iirc

This seems VERY odd, if its true. He is high elf, not half elf, and 30 is exceedingly young. 150-400 years + 200 after turning would feel closer, if the bit about him being a magistrate is true, unless he became a magistrate after turning (and only at night, as the new text says he couldn't be out in daytime before the tadpole, that seems very weird indeed).

I am not doubting you on what the game says, but something here doesn't add up.

-> google of D&D and high elf age says they are considered children before age 100.

[Nexx_Finalis]

@WtaWtaW Gale is actually over 1300 years old. He says it himself if you talk to him in Act 3 after he meets with Mystra.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3034825723

Only got the german Screenshot of it (from my own playthrough)
-Translation-
Gale: Anyway, I take it as a compliment.
One does not live to be thirteen centuries old without becoming a connoisseur of characters. And cheese, it seems.

[WildOrchid]

Publicado originalmente por Nexx_Finalis:

@WtaWtaW Gale is actually over 1300 years old. He says it himself if you talk to him in Act 3 after he meets with Mystra.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3034825723

Only got the german Screenshot of it (from my own playthrough)
-Translation-
Gale: Anyway, I take it as a compliment.
One does not live to be thirteen centuries old without becoming a connoisseur of characters. And cheese, it seems.

I thought he meant Elminster there?

[Midian13]

Publicado originalmente por WildOrchid:

Publicado originalmente por Nexx_Finalis:

@WtaWtaW Gale is actually over 1300 years old. He says it himself if you talk to him in Act 3 after he meets with Mystra.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3034825723

Only got the german Screenshot of it (from my own playthrough)
-Translation-
Gale: Anyway, I take it as a compliment.
One does not live to be thirteen centuries old without becoming a connoisseur of characters. And cheese, it seems.

I thought he meant Elminster there?

Yep, Gale's talking about Elminster's age.

Astarion according to Larian (Idle Champions) is 350 years old, same as Halsin. He was turned when he was 150 years old. Which is young for a High Elf since elves first 100 years of their life is considered "childhood." Elves (DnD) lifespans or aging is no way comparable or similar to humans.

[Empath demon]

Publicado originalmente por Moon Goose:

Incidentally, the Githzerai do not live on the Astral Plane, they live in the chaotic plane of Limbo where only their incredible discipline born from the teachings of Zerthimon allow them to survive.

In knowing of the teachings of Zerthimon I have grown stronger.

[tamaneko]

Publicado originalmente por Midian13:

Astarion according to Larian (Idle Champions) is 350 years old, same as Halsin. He was turned when he was 150 years old. Which is young for a High Elf since elves first 100 years of their life is considered "childhood." Elves (DnD) lifespans or aging is no way comparable or similar to humans.

That's interesting. It directly conflicts with in-game translation of the script on Astarion's headstone, and character datamining.
Also conflicts with his character data on the Forgotten Realms wiki.
Those all agree that Astarion "died" (and was turned) at 39 years old.

Which, yes, by Elven standards would make him still very, very young and technically a child or a teenager by their reckoning of time. But he doesn't live in a solely Elven community or City. His age is visually and physically on par with adults of many other races he lives among, regardless of how his Family sees him. The greater culture of Baldur's Gate would still treat him generally as an adult - tho maybe a young adult.
Which, in all honesty, makes his story that much more tragic.

Does him being 39 mean he couldn't also be a Magistrate in a city populated by all kinds of races with various life-spans, including Humans? Look at what a Human can achieve in that time, after all. Certainly a Human could be a Magistrate by that age, and Elves have the same rate of physical and mental development as Humans until they hit around 40 to 50 at which point their physical aging markedly slows.

Magistrates are civil servants, lawyers appointed to serve by a Judge. They enforce laws and codes. It's not a crazy high-powered job. But it is an awful nice, cushy entry-level job for a young noble of a notable and powerful house, perhaps just recently out of school and looking to start working his way up the ranks in High Society, till he reaches full Adulthood and takes on the reigns of the Family's Power in the city, having spent all those decades networking and consolidating his own relationships and power.
Especially if one of your high-powered Noble family members happens to be a Judge with the power to appoint you to that position.... I mean, it's Baldur's Gate, if course there's plenty of Nepotism, why wouldn't there be?

So, young Astarion gets his appointment, and as we know from EA (some of this Astarion backstory was cut alongside upper city content, but it's hopeful they might restore it), and from some of the general dialogue in game if you pay close enough attention, he was pretty corrupt with his new-found power in the short time he had it.
He helped to feed victims to the Szarr family even then, from the jails, and to decree enforcement of certain laws in ways that would ensure the jails had plenty of people to choose from to "disappear".
The Gur jumped him and beat him to death in revenge. It's hinted that a lot of their number, including children, were among those that "went missing" aka: fed to the Szarrs. The Gur monster hunter you run into mentions this still.
It's also hinted that the Gur were tipped off by Cazador himself, and that's why he was conveniently lying in wait to "save" Astarion after the Gur were done with him.
What he remembers of most of this after the trauma of his death, change and then 200 years being kept as a slave and an animal is debatable. He claims to not even remember his eye color, after all, and it makes sense.

Still. Canon says he's about 239 as of the events of BG3.

[DragonMaster]

Publicado originalmente por Clovis Sangrail:

Speaking as a geezer -- We need more geezers. Why des everyone have to look like 20-somethings.

This includes player character. No matter which head you choose, they all look like ♥♥♥♥♥♥ millennials. I can make my characters bald or half bald or give them long flowing locks, but their faces are still so young, I just want to punch them.

I don't give a crap about half-elves or other half-types. but BG3 discriminates against geezers. (Although to discriminate, you have to acknowledge its existence, which BG3 does not.)

GLM -- Geezer Lives Matter.

Good point but now the question for which I've got for you is what age do you consider a geezer? After all the adventuring life takes a toll on a person and eventually the just want to settle down and retire from a life on the road. Besides the fact after a while your not a fast and nimble as you were in your 20s and start slowing down. I'm 60 so I know what I'm saying. LOL

[wendigo211]

AFAIK,

• Laezel is the youngest, probably around 18.
  
• Astarion is 239 based on his tombstone.
  
• Gale seems to be in his 30s to 40s. He's definitely had some adventures, but he doesn't seem seasoned.
  
• Shadowheart is in her 40s or 50s. I'm not sure if she's 40 years old, or if she spent 40 years as a Sharran (she was about 13 when she was taken by them).
  
• Wyll is about 24, for the reasons WeebSlayer pointed out.
  
• Karlach is in her mid 30s? She should look younger than she is, since time works differently in the hells, but she was Zariel's soldier for 10 years and she worked as Gortash's bodyguard before that.
  
• Halsin is around 350.
  
• Jaheira is about 150. Based on her being a child during the muder of the Tethyrian royal family (10 Black Days of Elient).
  
• Minsc is around 145, although he was a statue for most of that time, so maybe he's in his 30s or 40s.
  
• Minthara, no clue, but probably a few centuries.

[Wes]

Publicado originalmente por wendigo211:

Wyll is about 24

And he's NG.[www.codenameentertainment.com]

Publicado originalmente por wendigo211:

Astarion is 239 based on his tombstone.

D&D's Idle Champions said he's 263 years old, which Larian's dev notes also confirmed it as true.

Publicado originalmente por wendigo211:

Shadowheart is in her 40s or 50s.

48 years old.

Publicado originalmente por wendigo211:

Laezel is the youngest, probably around 18.

22 years old, which is what her creator (Kevin Vanord) pretty much said back in 2020 too. This further proves that Idle Champions isn't lying about their info & spoke with Larian themselves about it.

[kbiz]

Everyone is in their 20's to 30's.

[✙205🍉🐆→]

33 like Jesus, a magical age for men, much better than the club 27

[Annie Other]

In Idle Champions, Lae'zel is 22, Wyll 24, Shadowheart 48 and Astarion 263. But in Idle Champions they sometimes change things.

[LordOfTheBread]

I was an adult when BG1 releasaed, nuff said.

[kbiz]

Publicado originalmente por LordOfTheBread:

I was an adult when BG1 releasaed, nuff said.

As Morpheus would say - yeeesss.