Problem with mod updates after patch 4

[Yuna]

Hi there, I hope someone can help me!
After i installed patch 4 i got a few bugs (like the kiss animation cutting off and Halsin stopped following the group). I thought it might have something to do with the mods, so i went through all of them on Nexus mods and installed the updated versions. after that i disabled the old versions on Vortex, because i was worried they might cause trouble if both versions are running.
Since then i cannot open my last game save. i get a message that states my game has become unstable because i dont have the mods on anymore. when i try to open the save anyway, the game crashes.

now i have already tried to do some fixing myself: i enabled the older versions of the mods and disabled the new ones. after that i did the good old turning my pc on and off again. but sadly thats where my knowlege ends. Does anyone else have an idea what i broke and how i can fix it?
(please excuse my poor english, its not my mother tounge)

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Yuna:

Hi there, I hope someone can help me!
After i installed patch 4 i got a few bugs (like the kiss animation cutting off and Halsin stopped following the group). I thought it might have something to do with the mods, so i went through all of them on Nexus mods and installed the updated versions. after that i disabled the old versions on Vortex, because i was worried they might cause trouble if both versions are running.
Since then i cannot open my last game save. i get a message that states my game has become unstable because i dont have the mods on anymore. when i try to open the save anyway, the game crashes.

now i have already tried to do some fixing myself: i enabled the older versions of the mods and disabled the new ones. after that i did the good old turning my pc on and off again. but sadly thats where my knowlege ends. Does anyone else have an idea what i broke and how i can fix it?
(please excuse my poor english, its not my mother tounge)

Your English is good enough for the forums. In doubt you can use this
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3016414185
But it should not hurt if you build up more confidence, knowing you can communicate in English sufficiently.

Mods wise, it is best you consult the mods authors.

That put aside, for your case I recommend to rollback the game version and freeze it, so you can enjoy to finish your ongoing game as modded as it is. Otherwise you will always have to restart.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3077201809
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3023295121

[TwinCats]

There may be some problems. For example, from BG3MM. There were complaints about its work with Win 11 after patch. And the Script Extender has not yet been updated for patch 4. Also, the game files were rebuilt with the patch, so various issues may arise with old saves.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by TwinCats:

There may be some problems. For example, from BG3MM. There were complaints about its work with Win 11 after patch. And the Script Extender has not yet been updated for patch 4. Also, the game files were rebuilt with the patch, so various issues may arise with old saves.

That is why mod users "freeze" their game version when using mods and only update when they are sure it works.

[Yuna]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Yuna:

That put aside, for your case I recommend to rollback the game version and freeze it, so you can enjoy to finish your ongoing game as modded as it is. Otherwise you will always have to restart.

Thank you very very much! luckily i made a backup before the game got updated, so i will definitly use that trick from now on!
sadly this didnt help though, it seems its actually rather a vortex problem, none of the mods are recognised in the game, not even in the backup. but at least i know where the problem is now thanks to you! so again: thank you very much!

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Yuna:

Thank you very very much! luckily i made a backup before the game got updated, so i will definitly use that trick from now on!
sadly this didnt help though, it seems its actually rather a vortex problem, none of the mods are recognised in the game, not even in the backup. but at least i know where the problem is now thanks to you! so again: thank you very much!

If e.g. your game worked before patch#4, and you did not change anything with the mods, I can guarantee you that if you use the rollback guide, you should be able to restore your savegame.

Just make sure to use exactly the same mods in the same order as before when you do that.

Once the rollback version is downloaded and properly setup, you start it using the executable and you are good to go with your modded savegame from before. The method is thoroughly tested.

Good luck!

[Sacred Korok]

I fixed all these issues by just starting a new campaign, even with all mods enabled! The game seems to not like it at all if youve saved the game in the previous patch (patch 3) and then gets an update midway through, so you have technically saves in patch 3 and patch 4 in one campaign. My mods werent the problem, they work just fine. The problem was the campaign itself. After i posted this on Nexusmods, some people replied and said that this actually worked for them too

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Sacred Korok:

I fixed all these issues by just starting a new campaign, even with all mods enabled! The game seems to not like it at all if youve saved the game in the previous patch (patch 3) and then gets an update midway through, so you have technically saves in patch 3 and patch 4 in one campaign. My mods werent the problem, they work just fine. The problem was the campaign itself. After i posted this on Nexusmods, some people replied and said that this actually worked for them too

Starting anew with every new patch is recommended. But you normally want also to finish the game at least once without being forced to start anew. Hence "freezing" the game version alongside the mods you are using.

[Yuna]

Originally posted by Sacred Korok:

I fixed all these issues by just starting a new campaign, even with all mods enabled! The game seems to not like it at all if youve saved the game in the previous patch (patch 3) and then gets an update midway through, so you have technically saves in patch 3 and patch 4 in one campaign. My mods werent the problem, they work just fine. The problem was the campaign itself. After i posted this on Nexusmods, some people replied and said that this actually worked for them too

I have tried something like that as well, but the mods also dont work when i start a new campain :(

[Yuna]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Yuna:

Thank you very very much! luckily i made a backup before the game got updated, so i will definitly use that trick from now on!
sadly this didnt help though, it seems its actually rather a vortex problem, none of the mods are recognised in the game, not even in the backup. but at least i know where the problem is now thanks to you! so again: thank you very much!

If e.g. your game worked before patch#4, and you did not change anything with the mods, I can guarantee you that if you use the rollback guide, you should be able to restore your savegame.

Just make sure to use exactly the same mods in the same order as before when you do that.

Once the rollback version is downloaded and properly setup, you start it using the executable and you are good to go with your modded savegame from before. The method is thoroughly tested.

Good luck!

i did as you recommended and followed the guide you send, but it sadly still doesnt work. the mods also dont work, when i start a new campain, thats why i think it has something to do with vortex.
vortex also updated since i last played, so i guess the issue lies there?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Yuna:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

If e.g. your game worked before patch#4, and you did not change anything with the mods, I can guarantee you that if you use the rollback guide, you should be able to restore your savegame.

Just make sure to use exactly the same mods in the same order as before when you do that.

Once the rollback version is downloaded and properly setup, you start it using the executable and you are good to go with your modded savegame from before. The method is thoroughly tested.

Good luck!

i did as you recommended and followed the guide you send, but it sadly still doesnt work. the mods also dont work, when i start a new campain, thats why i think it has something to do with vortex.
vortex also updated since i last played, so i guess the issue lies there?

Could be. I do not use Vortex and as a mod creator myself I know there are a lot of issues related to Vortex.

Do you want to continue troubleshoot?

My guarantee stands, that it will work with the rollback version of the game - but I do not know what mod you use and how. So you would need to elaborate on that with screenshots as well and make sure that e.g. the mods did not update.

If e.g. a mod updated and you did not notice because of Vortex auto-update, it might be the reason why it does not work.

[Yuna]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Yuna:

i did as you recommended and followed the guide you send, but it sadly still doesnt work. the mods also dont work, when i start a new campain, thats why i think it has something to do with vortex.
vortex also updated since i last played, so i guess the issue lies there?

Could be. I do not use Vortex and as a mod creator myself I know there are a lot of issues related to Vortex.

Do you want to continue troubleshoot?

My guarantee stands, that it will work with the rollback version of the game - but I do not know what mod you use and how. So you would need to elaborate on that with screenshots as well and make sure that e.g. the mods did not update.

If e.g. a mod updated and you did not notice because of Vortex auto-update, it might be the reason why it does not work.

first of all, i'm so thankfull youre helping me this much!
i have played with patch 4 already with the mods working perfectly fine so all my recent saves are in this patch as well. the problems only started after i updated the mods on vortex. and after i updated the mods, vortex updated as well. it seems to be a common problem, that after vortex updates, the mods arent working anymore. i looked at the nexus mods side and did as they suggested, but it still doesnt work :(
i now made sure the mods are back to the version they last worked, as you suggested, but still no mods anywhere
if you dont mod your game with vortex how do you do it? and would it solve my problems if i changed my modding way?

also i would love to inclued a screenshot of the mods but i cant figure out how to do that?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Yuna:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Could be. I do not use Vortex and as a mod creator myself I know there are a lot of issues related to Vortex.

Do you want to continue troubleshoot?

My guarantee stands, that it will work with the rollback version of the game - but I do not know what mod you use and how. So you would need to elaborate on that with screenshots as well and make sure that e.g. the mods did not update.

If e.g. a mod updated and you did not notice because of Vortex auto-update, it might be the reason why it does not work.

first of all, i'm so thankfull youre helping me this much!
i have played with patch 4 already with the mods working perfectly fine so all my recent saves are in this patch as well. the problems only started after i updated the mods on vortex. and after i updated the mods, vortex updated as well. it seems to be a common problem, that after vortex updates, the mods arent working anymore. i looked at the nexus mods side and did as they suggested, but it still doesnt work :(
i now made sure the mods are back to the version they last worked, as you suggested, but still no mods anywhere
if you dont mod your game with vortex how do you do it? and would it solve my problems if i changed my modding way?

also i would love to inclued a screenshot of the mods but i cant figure out how to do that?

It depends on the mod. Most mods can be used with a convenient mod manager, while all mods can be managed manually. So just to make your game run again with the mods you had before, it is within the realm of possibilities.

here is a checklist for you to work through

- did you download the rollbacked game version you need for your mods?
- did you put it somewhere safe so it will not autoupdate?
- which mods were you using?
- did you manage to get all versions of the mods you were using before?
- what is the mod load order you had before?

Screenshots you can share by using a webservice like imgur or Steam screenshot. I use ibb.co
But Google Drive, Dropbox, MEGA are fine too.

The screenshots of interest would be

- a screenshots which lists the mod you are using with the versions
- a screenshot of the mod loader shown in Vortex

[Yuna]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Yuna:

first of all, i'm so thankfull youre helping me this much!
i have played with patch 4 already with the mods working perfectly fine so all my recent saves are in this patch as well. the problems only started after i updated the mods on vortex. and after i updated the mods, vortex updated as well. it seems to be a common problem, that after vortex updates, the mods arent working anymore. i looked at the nexus mods side and did as they suggested, but it still doesnt work :(
i now made sure the mods are back to the version they last worked, as you suggested, but still no mods anywhere
if you dont mod your game with vortex how do you do it? and would it solve my problems if i changed my modding way?

also i would love to inclued a screenshot of the mods but i cant figure out how to do that?

It depends on the mod. Most mods can be used with a convenient mod manager, while all mods can be managed manually. So just to make your game run again with the mods you had before, it is within the realm of possibilities.

here is a checklist for you to work through

- did you download the rollbacked game version you need for your mods?
- did you put it somewhere safe so it will not autoupdate?
- which mods were you using?
- did you manage to get all versions of the mods you were using before?
- what is the mod load order you had before?

Screenshots you can share by using a webservice like imgur or Steam screenshot. I use ibb.co
But Google Drive, Dropbox, MEGA are fine too.

The screenshots of interest would be

- a screenshots which lists the mod you are using with the versions
- a screenshot of the mod loader shown in Vortex

i have played around a little and tried a mod manager but nothing worked and that one was even more complicated than vortex ^^"

the version that last worked is the most recent one, but i have that one and the one before downloaded safely as a back up.

i have made a bunch of screenshots now and hope they have all you need! about the mod ordner: vortex support said to delete everything in it to make the mods work again, so i did. what you see in there now, i put in manually again to see if that would help. it didnt.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yHJAobYlTtRgDqRV8W42_rfF066jPuZM/view?usp=sharing

[Yuna]

sorry i didnt send the correct link :( (im terrible at this, so really thank you for your patience with me!)

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IvszDvXPPr1faPK-QDKETc8PEgwxgZLN?usp=drive_link

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Yuna:

sorry i didnt send the correct link :( (im terrible at this, so really thank you for your patience with me!)

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IvszDvXPPr1faPK-QDKETc8PEgwxgZLN?usp=drive_link

That link is not set to public, so I cannot access it. And no worries. I will spend some time to see if we can get it fixed for you.

Originally posted by Yuna:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

It depends on the mod. Most mods can be used with a convenient mod manager, while all mods can be managed manually. So just to make your game run again with the mods you had before, it is within the realm of possibilities.

here is a checklist for you to work through

- did you download the rollbacked game version you need for your mods?
- did you put it somewhere safe so it will not autoupdate?
- which mods were you using?
- did you manage to get all versions of the mods you were using before?
- what is the mod load order you had before?

Screenshots you can share by using a webservice like imgur or Steam screenshot. I use ibb.co
But Google Drive, Dropbox, MEGA are fine too.

The screenshots of interest would be

- a screenshots which lists the mod you are using with the versions
- a screenshot of the mod loader shown in Vortex

i have played around a little and tried a mod manager but nothing worked and that one was even more complicated than vortex ^^"

the version that last worked is the most recent one, but i have that one and the one before downloaded safely as a back up.

i have made a bunch of screenshots now and hope they have all you need! about the mod ordner: vortex support said to delete everything in it to make the mods work again, so i did. what you see in there now, i put in manually again to see if that would help. it didnt.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yHJAobYlTtRgDqRV8W42_rfF066jPuZM/view?usp=sharing

Make a list which mods are you using in which version. The screenshot of the mod load order should be a screenshot of what you have in Vortex.

And when you share everything, make sure to share your savegame as well.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3043775090
I will try if I can see to get your savegame running, once we figured out what mods in which version you are using. The savegame you should share is the last two which worked before the patch.