Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Sephiroth Aug 17, 2023 @ 4:17pm
Bad action economy for some spells and makes no sense.
Example here.
Level 1 witchs bolt.
The caster has already spent a turn to cast the spell. The damage is lower than other spells but the idea is that OVER TIME this spell will be better right.

So the problem is it should at the least cost a quick action to activate its ability to deal additional damage in the following turns OR make it not cost any action at all but simply make it deal less damage. You can easily compare this to a attack by a fighter that makes target bleed turn after turn or suffer from gaping wounds.. those cost NO addition actions from a fighter.. so WHY make casters who already cast a spell like witchs bolt... have to continue to pay action points or even bonus actions... I dont care about the pnp 5e rules this is a video game and I want it to be BETTER than an old pnp game that came out many years in the past.


Realistically it makes no sense the wizard already spent time casting the spell in a previous turn.

So at the very least the following turns should only require a bonus action to activate it.

Then this spell might actually be useful with a change

Unless you actually use your head and think about spells and balance them so they are not under powered then there will be NO POINT in choosing them.

Players my as well just pick magic missile or chromatic orb or burning hands.

Overall casters in your game are really under powered.

Concentration is not working out good for casters at all.
The idea is to be able to use IMPROVED INVISIBILITY AND CAST SPELLS WHILE STAYING INVISIBILE.
YET.... YOU FAILED ON MAKING THIS WORK.

I have a sorceror with 20 charisma and 17 dex etc this character has NEVER suceeded once on using improve invisibility while shooting a fireball or chromatic orb
OR ANYTHING AT ALL.

Casters need to pass a concentration check and a stealth check..... which they never can pass... even with 20 charisma... and even with picking certain feats

Like I said you have failed to make this work.


If you had me on your team making decisions this game would be better.

You need to make changes to some spells and possibly to the casters themselves to make things actually work in this game.

7 levels in and my character only had 2 levels that actually felt like my character was able to grow and pick things good things.

level 2 - bad level little or no choices
lecel 3 - bad level little or no choices
level 4- good level was able to pick a feat etc
level 5- bad level little to no choices
level 6- good level because I am a sorceor and go some of my free spells here
level 7- bad level little to no choices.

Naturally the reason I show that little level list is so you can see where this game can IMPROVE.

You could add some more choices in these bad levels
For example this could be better if we had more class specific feat choices.
Like starting at level 3 we could get a feat choice and again at 5 and again at 7.

so would look more like this.

level 2- bad
level 3-good with feat choices
level 4- bad
level 5-good with feat choice
level 6-bad
level 7-good with feat choice

This would have made my game much more balanced and fun with a simple change like that.

but to be honest even with the extra feat choice the concentration mechanic is terrible and neuters casters as if they were not bad enough.

let me put it to you another way.
Players used to be ecstatic to get to level 4 spells and get improved invisibility in previous dnd games like the previous Baldurs Gate games.... yet its completely useless garbage in this game.

You cannot use it and attack or cast spells without it breaking.
Last edited by Sephiroth; Aug 17, 2023 @ 4:21pm
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Nordil(Hun) Aug 17, 2023 @ 5:27pm 
Please post your suggestion in the suggestions discussion.

Allthough probably wont really matter as Larian does not check that neither, nor this forum, well the whole of STEAM FORUM actually:D (You know that pinned thread, the very first one in this discussion segment, it has some revealing information.)
Last edited by Nordil(Hun); Aug 17, 2023 @ 5:28pm
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Date Posted: Aug 17, 2023 @ 4:17pm
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