Crazy high GPU usage.

[Steak221]

Just tried launching up the game to finally try a solo play through. Instantly could hear my GPU fans max out in RPM when the game launched. I had 98-99% GPU usage in the very first menu when the game launches, same story for the character creator. I tried DX11 and Vulkan, but no difference. I capped my FPS to 120. Only by going to the lowest settings do I get somewhere more reasonable: 75% GPU use. But it is still crazy. I managed to play this game on a GTX 1060 6gb. But now, theoretically after an upgrade it should run better (atleast the main menu). Getting into the first level gave me 90% gpu usage on the lowest settings.


Ryzen 9 5900x
32GB 3200mhz DDR4
RX 6900xt

[Cirrus]

Gpu always needs to go near 100% unless you cap it to some lower framerate. That is their job. That is normal and wanted. If this does not happen your cpu is too garbage to feed the GPU. But you have reasonably good cpu so GPU load 100% is normal state.

Only exception is some menu states in some games. They have ”automatic fps limit”. Bg3 menus do not have this. So you GPU needs to go near 100% in menus also.

If you want less than 100% you need to set FPS limit manually. Which you now did.

I use my GPU always 100% in modern games. And I only buy GPUs that can handle full 100% without issues or too much noise.

You have really garbage GPU model if 100% load means 100% max fan speed. With my Asus 3080 TUF 100% load only means 65 celcius and about 50% fan speed.

Or you gpu cooler contact etc has gone bad and you have warranty case.

Or you have managed to mess up your gpu fan control setting with too many controlling software (radeon own, afterburner etc all controlling).

[Steak221]

Yes, it is good to have GPU usage be able to max out. However this game shouldn't be demanding. It has good graphics, but this gpu can handle much better looking games for far less load. This is the only game that acts like a stress test (albeit fps is not an issue). All other games run normally.

The point is that this is an unreasonable amount of gpu load. some horrible optimisation error. Do you not see 99% gpu use on the main menu as an issue? it's obvious that there is some other issue at fault.

[Cirrus]

Postat inițial de IMPERATOR GroßKazakhstanReich:

Yes, it is good to have GPU usage be able to max out. However this game shouldn't be demanding. It has good graphics, but this gpu can handle much better looking games for far less load. This is the only game that acts like a stress test (albeit fps is not an issue). All other games run normally.

The point is that this is an unreasonable amount of gpu load. some horrible optimisation error. Do you not see 99% gpu use on the main menu as an issue? it's obvious that there is some other issue at fault.

You have gravely misunderstood something. All games need to act like stress tests. All games need to put load to 100%. If it is ”light game” fps will be 600 and load 100%. If it is ”super heavy game with ray tracing” fps will be 60 and load 100%. Only way to ease load for both games is to limit their fps.

Or if we concentrate on one single and same game. Same game with ultra settings can give fps 80 and load 100% or very low settings 300 fps and load 100%. Again load only reduces if you use FPS limit of lower value than the fps is.

Bg3 main menu has moving living cave in background that is heavy graphics and will consume 100% as it should. Only way it does not consume 100% is FPS limit set by game itself (some games have decided that main menu can be automatically limited because it is not important to game experience or it is very light text graphics and fps would be 1000 without limit). Or fps limit set by you.

I play this game 4k ultra settings with fps limited to 120 (maximum fps my TV supports). But this game like many many modern games 4k resolution does not give nearly as high as 120 fps and limit is not hit and load is 100% all the time. I use same 120 fps limit for all games. So if I play some 10 years old game with light graphics that could give 600 fps at 100% load it hits to 120 fps limit and GPU load is 20% as result.

Generally this game is not in final optimization quality. But it is still reasonably normal on higher level setting. What I have read and partially tested my self is that lower setting levels might not be as well optimized. They actually do not make things lighter and raise fps that much. I have tested this and I use maxed out ultra settings always now. They work well and give decent FPS still.

Also the newest added settings like nvidia DLSS and AMD FSR might have problems. I have seen some complaints, but I have not tested.

[Steak221]

Somehow you keep missing the point and finding tangents. There is nothing that complicated in the main menu, or the character creator. Yes they look nice. But completely out of proportion to how demanding it is to run. There are many games which have rendered backgrounds on the main menu, but nothing as bad as this. I didn't have an issue with it before.
I will quote myself: "I capped my FPS to 120".
I was happy playing this game on a gtx 1060, but now I have a worse experience. despite having a far better gpu by a whole magnitude, if not more.

[Cirrus]

Postat inițial de IMPERATOR GroßKazakhstanReich:

Somehow you keep missing the point and finding tangents. There is nothing that complicated in the main menu, or the character creator. Yes they look nice. But completely out of proportion to how demanding it is to run. There are many games which have rendered backgrounds on the main menu, but nothing as bad as this. I didn't have an issue with it before.
I will quote myself: "I capped my FPS to 120".
I was happy playing this game on a gtx 1060, but now I have a worse experience. despite having a far better gpu by a whole magnitude, if not more.

Well i can play this game with 3 different GPUs. 3080, 1080ti and 1660 ti. And all work fine. Nothing in reality is out porpotion.

So you are missing the point also. I will quote myself also. Your ”maxed out RPM” is only your personal problem. Everyone else can run this 100% load without problems:

You have really garbage GPU model if 100% load means 100% max fan speed. With my Asus 3080 TUF 100% load only means 65 celcius and about 50% fan speed.

Or you gpu cooler contact etc has gone bad and you have warranty case.

Or you have managed to mess up your gpu fan control setting with too many controlling software (radeon own, afterburner etc all controlling).

[Cirrus]

I could agree on one point. Character creation screens seems heavy side compared to what it is.

But it is absolutely irrelevant. It will not effect gaming experience of anyone. Except yours because of "my GPU fans max out in RPM" I guess.

So it might or might not get optimized. On my list it's bottom.

[Steak221]

Yea, had my friend try out the game as well. He had an RTX 3080 Ti and i7 13700k, and was maxed out on usage at 120fps on the main menu. Somehow turning off vsync with no fps cap, put him down to 90fps. He couldn't get the fps back by turning on the vsync. So the game really needs optimisation.

[Cirrus]

You are propably this same person: https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=843736

But if you are not then similar issue was fixed by using older AMD driver.

Seems that AMD is back in old tricks and having lots and lots of driver issues with new 7000-series and messing up old cards at same time.

[Steak221]

Yea. Just tried an older driver. Got worse performance in my case. Tried 22.9.2 and an april driver. But I found that borderless windowed, with triple buffered vsync and fps cap actually performs best, for some weird reason.