Lae'zel is gone, nowhere to be found in Act 1 atm, should i restart?

[Morkonan]

I came across Lae'zel in her cage early in the game. I went through the dialogue, got her captors to leave, then looked around to see if I could find a hidden lever or something to free her... instead of shooting the cage down. I just didn't know you could interact with elements like that - I assumed it would be the result of dialogue.

I walked around the area to see if a lever was out of sight, and there was a message that popped up, but it went away quickly and all I thought I read was the world "failed" or something similar.

Lae'zel is nowhere to be found in Act 1, but she evidently freed herself from the cage. I've read that if she's not at least at camp, I wouldn't have gotten her questline and I'm pretty much screwed for missing out on a very big part of the game...

wat do?

Should I restart, or should I be confident that there's an opportunity for me to get her and her questline later?

I'm in Act 1, just about to hit the Hag, finish gobbies, and then go into the Underdark portion of Act 1's play. Level 4 party, Pladin PC, Shadowheart, Astarion, Gale in party and the rest at Camp... sans Lae'zel. :(

[Tax evasion]

If you didn't free her from her cage, she might have died. However, if you go to the mountain pass, she might spawn there (by the Trielta Crags teleporter). However, she might "force" you to go to the crèche, for which you might be underlevelled.

[Morkonan]

Yeah, I just went to the Pass and the Gith fight is too much for me right now.

A hint somewhere said that she could be found there dead, later, if I don't engage with that cutscene. But, could i still rez her and get her to join me, then?

[Tax evasion]

Characters that die "out of normal gameplay" (i.e. by story reasons, or before officially joining camp, like if Halsin dies in the Goblin Camp fight), or that leave by player choice (Astarion, Wyll, Karlach, Gale) can not be brought back. I believe that will apply to Lae'zel as well.

[EricHVela]

Lae'zel will be lost if you don't recruit her before entering Act 2 by any route, or (possibly) if you see her at the broken bridge and leave without resolving her situation or, after helping her at the broken bridge, don't recruit her before entering the monastery in the Mountain Pass.

In the situation where you didn't help her at the broken bridge, she can be Revivified there without being a companion (and can be optionally recruited as before). Any other time where you were not present for her dying, she cannot be Revivified. EDIT: Except if you enter Act 2 or the Monastery. She won't be Revivifiable at the broken bridge in those cases.

[Morkonan]

Note: Thank you for your patience. Sorry this is so complicated, but it's not my fault. :)

OK, I wrote out questions to clarify this thing, but because there's so many nested and/or, if/then statements... let's just get "simple." :)


I reloaded to a saved game point just after I had finished the Waukeen's Rest events and before I had triggered the Tiefling scene, before witnessing the Gith group, Lae'zel and the dragon/etc. So, in the current play, none of those things have been witnessed yet. (I don't know what the clock/timeline is for events occurring outside of my group's awareness.) My group is Level 4, just finished the Phase Spider Mother while trying to figure out what to do about recruiting Lae'zel. (Maybe it's too late, now?)

The question:

What do I need to do in order to recruit Lae'zel, now? :)

Interpreting replies, then maybe:

a) Trigger the Gith Fight and win with Lae'zel surviving and then recruit her.

b) Trigger the Gith Fight and win without Lae'zel surviving, but revive her then recruit her.

c) Discover Lae'zel's corpse at the bridge, presumably because the events surrounding the Gith Fight have already ocurred, and revive that body and then recruit her? (Maybe not possible?)

Maybe a and b, but not c, according to interpretations?

Originally posted by Tax evasion:

If you didn't free her from her cage, she might have died. However, if you go to the mountain pass, she might spawn there (by the Trielta Crags teleporter). However, she might "force" you to go to the crèche, for which you might be underlevelled.

I'm kind stuck with doing whatever I can to recruit her in order to get access to her questline. It's a crappy deal and it shouldn't have happened without a safety net somewhere, but it's... the situation I'm in, so... /shrug.


PS: Thanks for the help, all. Any suggestion as to how I could get through that Gith Fight, if I have to fight it, or how long I have before that Gith Fight will no longer spawn would be appreciated. I'm thinking that if I have to fight, I'll have to just overload on consumables/scrolls and.. reloads. :/

[Tax evasion]

You can actually skip the gith fight entirely. There's another entrance to the mountain pass, right as you enter the goblin camp : instead of going right across the bridge, you continue behind the 3 drunkards.
Apparently Lae'zel is still alive and joined the githyanki patrol. And because she didn't join you yet, she has no knowledge of the artifact and (probably) won't get killed by the patrol (never happened to me).

What you can do is either :
a) Skip the patrol and go directly to the Mountain Pass through the Goblin Camp, and see if she shows up at the Trielta Crags teleporter

b) go to the Underdark to level and gear up, and come back to the patrol later. If you've never been there, there are 3 entrances : the Spider Cave (through Feather Fall), the Zhentarim Outpost (Waukeen's Rest), and the Golbin Camp (Priestess Gut chamber).

c) Fight the patrol. It is a tough fight (as you have noticed), however if you have access to Crowd Control (Hold Person is really strong against the main one), you can engage the fight from afar and CC them to death (spike growth, sleet storm to slow them down, and ranged characters to whittle them down).

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by Tax evasion:

You can actually skip the gith fight entirely. There's another entrance to the mountain pass, right as you enter the goblin camp : instead of going right across the bridge, you continue behind the 3 drunkards.
Apparently Lae'zel is still alive and joined the githyanki patrol. And because she didn't join you yet, she has no knowledge of the artifact and (probably) won't get killed by the patrol (never happened to me).

In the Gith Fight at the bridge, she gains knowledge of the artifact due to the link generated by the Tadpoles, which then prompts the dialogue that initiates the Gith Fight, IIRC.

You're saying that doesn't happen at the other location?

Can I access her, and recruit her, at that other location without having to actually leave Act 1, which closes out those quests/missions and i can't return to complete them, then?

I haven't yet gone past the Blighted Village, yet, because I didn't want to get locked into a quest chain out of fear it'd advance the other events to the point she would disappear from the game.

What you can do is either :
a) Skip the patrol and go directly to the Mountain Pass through the Goblin Camp, and see if she shows up at the Trielta Crags teleporter

That won't force me to enter Act 2, to get access to her, right?

b) go to the Underdark to level and gear up, and come back to the patrol later. If you've never been there, there are 3 entrances : the Spider Cave (through Feather Fall), the Zhentarim Outpost (Waukeen's Rest), and the Golbin Camp (Priestess Gut chamber).

My plan was to go through the Priestess Gut questline, clear that out, then see if I was level five, by which time I'd stand a better chance against the Gith Patrol. But, I don't know if that Gith Patrol opportunity will sunset by that time and leave me with no Lae'zel in-game. :(

(I know it's frustrating due to my ignorance, atm. I will try to find her at the other location and be sure I have a save available if I have to reload it to try another shot at the Gith Patrol.)

c) Fight the patrol. It is a tough fight (as you have noticed), however if you have access to Crowd Control (Hold Person is really strong against the main one), you can engage the fight from afar and CC them to death (spike growth, sleet storm to slow them down, and ranged characters to whittle them down).

I may have to do that. If so, I'll have to try with level 4 characters and load up on some consumables.

Knowledge from anyone with any info as to what represents a viable "revive" option for Lae'zel recruiting would be welcomed as well as timelines and encounter/event decay!

Since the encounter would start with me being Level 4, I assume she is as well, and she gets one-shot immediately in that encounter. She's surely going to get whacked early in that encounter.


PS: I'll report back with results/acquired knowledge. It's an annoying situation as an issue with a companion with such a big questline shouldn't be this hard to fix... The only safeguard is "don't explore and trigger stuff before you're well acquainted with triggering stuffs." :)

[Tax evasion]

Okay so, Act 2 is the Shadowlands. The Mountain Pass and Underdark are still considered to be act I.

One thing you will need to be aware of, is that if you enter the mountain pass by any means (either thru the patrol or the camp), the goblin camp questline will unfold. That means that if you haven't killed the leaders, then the Rite of Thorns will complete. This is the only "timed" event you need to be aware of.

You're saying that doesn't happen at the other location?

I haven't encountered your specific issue. I know that if you don't recruit her in her cage, she shows up at the mountain pass, at the Trielta Crags teleporter.
The wiki mentions that you get this opportunity (the Gith Patrol) to recruit her (if she dies as either neutral or ally, she can be resurrected). If you don't recruit her there, she will show up one last time at the Mountain pass and will be able to be recruited. You can therefore completely avoid the Gith Fight if you have too much trouble.

My plan was to go through the Priestess Gut questline, clear that out, then see if I was level five, by which time I'd stand a better chance against the Gith Patrol. But, I don't know if that Gith Patrol opportunity will sunset by that time and leave me with no Lae'zel in-game. :(

She (and the patrol) will stay there as long as you stay in this act (and not progress to the mountain pass).

I haven't yet gone past the Blighted Village, yet, because I didn't want to get locked into a quest chain out of fear it'd advance the other events to the point she would disappear from the game.

Right now, you can access your whole map without triggering any unwelcome events. Feel free to explore (and mostly level up, that gith chief with 3 attacks a turn is not forgiving).

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by Tax evasion:

Okay so, Act 2 is the Shadowlands. The Mountain Pass and Underdark are still considered to be act I.

One thing you will need to be aware of, is that if you enter the mountain pass (or the 2nd part of the Underdark, via boat) by any means (either thru the patrol or the camp), the goblin camp questline will unfold. That means that if you haven't killed the leaders, then the Rite of Thorns will complete. This is the only "timed" event you need to be aware of.

Gotcha! So, it may be wise to go ahead and do the Priestess Gut line, finish that, and hope to have leveled up during that time? (For the Gith Fight)

I haven't encountered your specific issue. I know that if you don't recruit her in her cage, she shows up at the mountain pass, at the Trielta Crags teleporter.
The wiki mentions that you get this opportunity (the Gith Patrol) to recruit her (if she dies as either neutral or ally, she can be resurrected). If you don't recruit her there, she will show up one last time at the Mountain pass and will be able to be recruited. You can therefore completely avoid the Gith Fight if you have too much trouble.

Thanks for that potential encouragemet - Meaning that I do move on with the Gut portion and clear out the gobbies/three bosses, I can still potentially recruit her no matter what happens with the Gith Fight still being there. (If I understand it correctly)

She (and the patrol) will stay there as long as you stay in this act (and not progress to the mountain pass).

Gotcha! So, at the least I can keep that scene trigger in-game and that's a sure fallback point, just so long as I don't trigger/progress it or enter Act 2 via other means.

Right now, you can access your whole map without triggering any unwelcome events. Feel free to explore (and mostly level up, that gith chief with 3 attacks a turn is not forgiving).

Thanks for that!

Yes, the Gith chief is nasty and the Fighter, too... I managed to focus them both down at level 4, but still had two left and I would have easily been wiped out at that point. (Gith "Ghost" unit and a crossbow Gith)

Thanks for all your help/assurance/advice! It's very much appreciated! I'll work on this in a few, hitting the gobbies, hoping to level up, and will eventually report back with whatever circumstances occur. :)

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