So i just can't keep Shovel then?

[TamTroll]

Had Shovel the Quasit for awhile now, only summoned her after getting the necromancy of Thay, going through the mirror, basically clearing that whole area out.

When i first talked to her, i did not follow and specific pattern of conversation, and renamed her to Basket.

At some point i noticed i couldn't seem to summon her back if she died, so i looked around and found this guide basically telling me that 1. i screwed up by changing her name, and 2. there is no other way to get her "find familiar" spell?

Next time i levelled up, i tried giving the character she was currently following (my Tav) one level in sorcerer and going to where the mirror USED to be as the guide instructed, no luck. talking to her just gets me the "trust me beefy!" line again and again.

So i tried giving Astarian a level in wizard and talking to her instead, going through all the "1" options except for the one where "1" reads "No, you will do no souch things", as the guide says. I then went to where the mirror was again, and still nothing. She still won't change her dialouge or give Astarian any kind of new ability or the like.

Am i just SOL then? Did i accidentally lock myself out of having a re-summonable familiar, and once she's dead, she's dead?

To be fair, she doesn't seem to do much so far as i can tell. All she's really done is follow me around while invisible and stay out of trouble, that's about it, can't really do anything useful.

But she's cute though, so i was kind of hoping to keep her around as a sort of pet, like Scratch.

Is there anything i can do to save this, or should i just let her die and bamph away?

[Snaef]

You need to have a level of spellcaster in either wizard, sorcerer or warlock
You need to cast the spell directly from the scroll
You need to speak to shovel twice
The second time you start a conversation with shovel, it will mention that you are a "spell ♥♥♥♥♥" and you should use the sparkly magic when the fisting starts, so you can kill everything together.
You can now summon shovel as a "common" ability, just like the dog, and you can even respec out of the spellcaster class and still summon it.

[TamTroll]

Originally posted by Snaef:

You need to have a level of spellcaster in either wizard, sorcerer or warlock
You need to cast the spell directly from the scroll
You need to speak to shovel twice
The second time you start a conversation with shovel, it will mention that you are a "spell ♥♥♥♥♥" and you should use the sparkly magic when the fisting starts, so you can kill everything together.
You can now summon shovel as a "common" ability, just like the dog, and you can even respec out of the spellcaster class and still summon it.

As i said, i did that, and it didn't work.

[jonnin]

wizard can also flat out just learn it.
the summon is mostly junk, but you can't overstate the usefulness of a perma invisible scout for some tasks. It does not fight well, nor have much else redeeming other than snarky dialog.

[TamTroll]

Originally posted by jonnin:

wizard can also flat out just learn it.
the summon is mostly junk, but you can't overstate the usefulness of a perma invisible scout for some tasks. It does not fight well, nor have much else redeeming other than snarky dialog.

The scroll has been burned up already though, they need the scroll to be intact don't they?

[jonnin]

Originally posted by TamTroll:

Originally posted by jonnin:

wizard can also flat out just learn it.
the summon is mostly junk, but you can't overstate the usefulness of a perma invisible scout for some tasks. It does not fight well, nor have much else redeeming other than snarky dialog.

The scroll has been burned up already though, they need the scroll to be intact don't they?

yes, you have to load back to the scroll in bag.

[TamTroll]

Originally posted by jonnin:

Originally posted by TamTroll:

The scroll has been burned up already though, they need the scroll to be intact don't they?

yes, you have to load back to the scroll in bag.

then yeah, think i might be SOL then, waaay past that point in my game