New Game Plus

[Seven of Nine]

So...

Many of us really like this game but we miss things from the game. I would really like to have a shot at higher levels too, say go up to 20. But currently that would break things, since many fights are tuned for a certain level...

And many of us wish we could truly test our end builds more...

What if Larian added an official support for higher level gameplay WITH new game plus:

You would start with the equipment you had when you finished the campaign. You would lose all gold, camp supplies, and potions / elixirs. Only equipped items would carry over.

But whats the fun in killing level 3 goblins with a fully kitted party?

They could scale them up for the party. Those goblins could be just made stronger, say a goblin would have 80-100 HP. And so on.

They could, if they wanted, add new items for the game that would cater for the higher difficulty.

This way they could solve 2 problems at once:
Some of us would like to play on with our characters for longer. We want to test or enjoy the builds we have for more than what the game currently allows.
And also some of us would like to see higher level gameplay, at the very least some kind of official support. They said they dont want to do an official campaign because its hard to come up with new story, or a villain that would justify for it, but what if for once we treat the game as a game as well, and simply have the same story play out in a new game plus format?

Please Larian listen to us!

[Razorblade]

NG+ is a lazy solution for developers to pad out a game; it would diminish the level of quality the playerbase expects from BG3. Moreover, it would not scale well with the DnD system. Giving a goblin an extra 500 HP doesn't let it go toe-to-toe with a level 20 character. This isn't Dark Souls; it's not that simple.

If higher level play is needed, I'd much rather the devs go the not-lazy route of making an expansion.

[Seven of Nine]

Originally posted by Razorblade:

NG+ is a lazy solution for developers to pad out a game; it would diminish the level of quality the playerbase expects from BG3. Moreover, it would not scale well with the DnD system. Giving a goblin an extra 500 HP doesn't let it go toe-to-toe with a level 20 character. This isn't Dark Souls; it's not that simple.

If higher level play is needed, I'd much rather the devs go the not-lazy route of making an expansion.

1.) NG+ Could be a fine choice. As I said, I got my level 12 builds up and running with their legendaries and epics, and I barely had any time enjoying them. NG+ could theoretically be an answer for this.
2.) It would come with an officially supported high-level gameplay. They said, they wouldn't consider a higher level campaign, simply because the power level required for those kind of campaigns is very hard to justify (i.e.: creating a believably strong villain to support the idea of going for higher levels, thing is that BG3 could have allowed for gameplay up to level 16.)
3.) Adding new items, or stronger version of existing items.
4.) That was just a... quick template. But what if we allow our favorit goblins to receive proficiency? (As far as I know, NPCs don't really scale into the late game, my paladin with 27AC is nearly unhittable, most enemies struggle already at 24). They could also gain some "fun stuff", say a goblin booyahg gives them a storm aura, giving them haste, and allowing them do 1d8 extra lightning or thunder damage. There are options, where the NG+ could come with extra difficulty, or "retained difficulty level", with unique twists on the base game.

If properly done NG+ could be a great addition. With that said, even I'd welcome an extra campaign going up for higher levels, but Larian has turned it down consistently. Fact is that BG3 is an already well-padded-out game. Theoretically it'd be "harder" to make a campaign for higher levels.

I want to relive my journey with my level 12 paladin, with all her legendaries, with her build, or mind you maybe try something new, but without starting from scrap again and again and again.

[votadc]

They could do like Persona game: your levels are reset, you keep other thing. Maybe gear or money. Maybe you keep permanent buffs.

[Blaid]

Also, past lvl 12~13, the whole point is to become god-like. Who cares if it breaks a few things? That's kinda the point.

[Seven of Nine]

Originally posted by votadc:

They could do like Persona game: your levels are reset, you keep other thing. Maybe gear or money. Maybe you keep permanent buffs.

There are so many ways they could do NG+ all valid for a reason:
1) you keep equipment and levels, difficulty remains the same, cause some people want to feel like gods... no new levels or equipments
2) you keep equipment and your XP gets reset - basically an easier playthrough, no new levels.
3) keep equipment, and xp, monsters scaled up given new abilities, you get new levels and equipment.
Im a strong supporter of the 3rd option. Its a midway between Larians reluctance to make a high level campaign and players desire to experience high level...

Besides that, some of us want to continue to play with our characters.

[Davetiger]

I just wish they would do a new game + even if it just meant all my inventories go to my camp, I keep my money and reset me to 1, good with staying my level but I understand the balancing act you have to do on that but the truth is with as many 1-4 I roll my attack power doesn't matter my dex doesn't matter because when you roll 2 (reload game) roll 4 (reload game) roll 1.... No amount of levels or gear is going to change the outcome of that fight. And all the "gear" isn't exactly SUPER AWESOME MAKES YOU UNBEATABLE... it's like +3 or 4 to the minimum damage so why not let us start a new game and have it available to us (after you can camp of coarse) You already beat the game, why can't you enjoy it again without the struggle and just enjoy it :)

Side edit if you reset me to 1 at least "template my levels" so I don't have to remember what I put in and when I can just play level and "autolevel" basically it pulls up the level screen but all your choices are already made as they were the first game and you can hold y to keep that or change whatever you want but know what you did the first time through

[Konahrik]

I like the idea of adding a New Game +. I think that many players would appreciate being able to play with their character but without losing levels and items, after all, part of the fun of role-playing games is being able to use the characters that cost you so much to create and improve.

In addition to the above, the enemies should have levels and abilities similar to those at the end of the game. This could make the game more replayable for people who aren't interested in starting from scratch or trying other classes.