Main plot makes very little sense?

[John Smith]

It feels like there should be a million ways to deal with a parasite like this when resurrection is so commonly practiced. Actually, not only that, lots of other things like permanent blindness, being lethally poisoned and cursed can all be easily cured by magic...Surely, they must have a simple solution for the parasite by now, right?

It's like a society figuring out how to cure cancer but is unequipped to treat the common cold.

[Hobocop]

The magical remedies for a mind flayer tadpole are not readily available to relative nobody 4th level adventurers. Never mind that the vast majority of normal ass people are lucky to have access to and the means to pay for the services of a magical healer who can do more than a couple of 1st level spells a day.

For reference:

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ceremorphosis

[Brian Sirith]

- My god grants me powers
- Tadpole removal powers?
- Umm... well... I’m getting there

[Something completely different]

Originally posted by John Smith:

It feels like there should be a million ways to deal with a parasite like this when resurrection is so commonly practiced. Actually, not only that, lots of other things like permanent blindness, being lethally poisoned and cursed can all be easily cured by magic...Surely, they must have a simple solution for the parasite by now, right?

It's like a society figuring out how to cure cancer but is unequipped to treat the common cold.

How many people have you met that could cast resurrection in act 1?

[Alealexi]

Looks like OP hasn't gone in & delved into the story deep enough. Not going to spoil the lore already discovered.

[John Smith]

Nah, it's okay, spoil it for me.

[John Smith]

I think y'all are inadvertently arguing for "the best of all possible worlds" while ignoring the internal logical structure of it all.

[zacharyb]

It's not a normal tadpole, even the hag/witch couldn't remove it with her magic because the tadpole is protected by Netherese shadow magic.

[Dexter]

According to Forgotten Realms lore, there are a variety of spells that can stop and/or cure ceremorphosis. Practically every town in the Forgotten Realms has a temple, and in those temples are healers. Those healers nearly always have resurrection and restoration, which are the two spells that can be used to stop ceremorphosis.

The whole idea with ceremorphosis is that the illithids keep the host captive until the process is complete, otherwise the host will be able to cure themselves at the first temple they come across.

So yeah, once the player gets to a moderately sized town with a temple, the main story should end there basically... Not really good for a main quest to be honest.

Many people in Larian did not play D&D or Baldur's Gate and have admitted to such in interviews, so it's no surprise that they're playing fast and loose with the lore and mechanics of the game. I imagine they'll come up with an excuse like: "Well this is a super-duper tadpole that can't be cured with normal spells" and you'll spend the whole game looking for a character or a "MacGuffin" device that will heal you after a climactic final battle, or something along those lines...

[zacharyb]

Originally posted by Dexter:

According to Forgotten Realms lore, there are a variety of spells that can stop and/or cure ceremorphosis. Practically every town in the Forgotten Realms has a temple, and in those temples are healers. Those healers nearly always have resurrection and restoration, which are the two spells that can be used to stop ceremorphosis.

The whole idea with ceremorphosis is that the illithids keep the host captive until the process is complete, otherwise the host will be able to cure themselves at the first temple the come across.

So yeah, once the player gets to a moderately sized town with a temple, the main story should end there basically... Not really good for a main quest to be honest.

Many people in Larian did not play D&D or Baldur's Gate and have admitted to such in interviews, so it's no surprise that they're playing fast and loose with the lore and mechanics of the game. I imagine they'll come up with an excuse like: "Well this is a super-duper tadpole that can't be cured with normal spells" and you'll spend the whole game looking for a character or a "MacGuffin" device that will heal you after a climactic final battle, or something along those lines...

They've already explained why they can't remove the tadpole through normal means.

[Dexter]

Originally posted by zacharyb:

Originally posted by Dexter:

According to Forgotten Realms lore, there are a variety of spells that can stop and/or cure ceremorphosis. Practically every town in the Forgotten Realms has a temple, and in those temples are healers. Those healers nearly always have resurrection and restoration, which are the two spells that can be used to stop ceremorphosis.

The whole idea with ceremorphosis is that the illithids keep the host captive until the process is complete, otherwise the host will be able to cure themselves at the first temple the come across.

So yeah, once the player gets to a moderately sized town with a temple, the main story should end there basically... Not really good for a main quest to be honest.

Many people in Larian did not play D&D or Baldur's Gate and have admitted to such in interviews, so it's no surprise that they're playing fast and loose with the lore and mechanics of the game. I imagine they'll come up with an excuse like: "Well this is a super-duper tadpole that can't be cured with normal spells" and you'll spend the whole game looking for a character or a "MacGuffin" device that will heal you after a climactic final battle, or something along those lines...

They've already explained why they can't remove the tadpole through normal means.

No they haven't - Some witch couldn't remove it, fine. Did they try killing the characters, crushing the parasite, and then using resurrection? Because that's the preferred way to deal with illithid tadpoles according to the lore.

[TheBlueFox]

I mean, if you want to get into a discussion on 5e, the availability of priests and clerics, the cost of spells and the affordability of such, and the whole conundrum of how magical traveling adventurers don't just immediately take an afternoon out of their day to annihilate a plague and then kick back a few brews at the tavern, that could be fun.

The rest of this post is spoilers...

However, as for BG3, so far every possible method of curing the infestation of your mindflayer tadpole doesn't work. Not even death.

Normally, when the host dies, the tadpole leaves the body, as is seen by many. However the PLAYERS Tadpoles are more resilient, more durable, more stubborn.

Not even another Mindflayer can remove them

Death doesn't stop these tadpoles, Polymorphing doesn't stop them, having your BODY RECONSTRUCTED doesn't stop them.

SO something about them is different.

[zacharyb]

Originally posted by Dexter:

Originally posted by zacharyb:

They've already explained why they can't remove the tadpole through normal means.

No they haven't - Some witch couldn't remove it, fine. Did they try killing the characters, crushing the parasite, and then using resurrection? Because that's the preferred way to deal with illithid tadpoles according to the lore.

Even a friendly Illithid said that the tadpole wasn't a normal tadpole and I think he tried plucking it from your head but couldn't.

[hicks.daniel.j]

Originally posted by Dexter:

So yeah, once the player gets to a moderately sized town with a temple, the main story should end there basically... Not really good for a main quest to be honest.

If you rescue the stranded fishers who are trying to rescue the trapped Mind Flayer, they'll say that it's about a tenday to Baldur's Gate. At level 4, you're not getting there in time to beat standard ceremorphosis.

I think the bigger plot holes here are two resurrection scrolls each playable character starts with and the NPC you can meet early on who'll resurrect you for 200 gold.

[Mosey]

Look, the op read the first act of the book so he's fully qualified to talk about the ending of the book making sense.

It's just that easy.

/sarc

[Soft Lockpick]

Originally posted by zacharyb:

Originally posted by Dexter:

According to Forgotten Realms lore, there are a variety of spells that can stop and/or cure ceremorphosis. Practically every town in the Forgotten Realms has a temple, and in those temples are healers. Those healers nearly always have resurrection and restoration, which are the two spells that can be used to stop ceremorphosis.

The whole idea with ceremorphosis is that the illithids keep the host captive until the process is complete, otherwise the host will be able to cure themselves at the first temple the come across.

So yeah, once the player gets to a moderately sized town with a temple, the main story should end there basically... Not really good for a main quest to be honest.

Many people in Larian did not play D&D or Baldur's Gate and have admitted to such in interviews, so it's no surprise that they're playing fast and loose with the lore and mechanics of the game. I imagine they'll come up with an excuse like: "Well this is a super-duper tadpole that can't be cured with normal spells" and you'll spend the whole game looking for a character or a "MacGuffin" device that will heal you after a climactic final battle, or something along those lines...

They've already explained why they can't remove the tadpole through normal means.

The explanation they gave is exactly the one he criticized them for theoretically giving. So if he didn't know the explanation he predicted and looked down on that explanation already.