[!] Lae'zel does not recognize another Gith past initial meeting

[War Maiden]

Githyanki is hit or miss with Lae'zel
So, I created a Githyanki Cleric. She Fussed at me for 'forgetting myself' in our initial exchange about being infected. However... once we are in camp, she does not recognize me as another Githyanki, and instead speaks of me as one of the other races.

One BIG immersion thing in RPG's is that the people you speak to understand and KNOW whom you are. Be it historically (if going off past deeds), race-wise (They need to notice ones race to address them accordingly and INTERACT with them as such). This is not happening at least in Lae'zel's case. I admit,

I mostly play Drow Fems, of various classes, but even when I made a Gityanki Cleric, she treated me as an outsider. The character flags need to successfully notice that one is a race, and two, that the race is dileniated to the proper dialogue options based on those variables.

[Brian Sirith]

+1

It happens in a lot of cases. Disappointing...

[bullse]

While I have some tendency to agree, Gith are a strict militaristic hierarchy based society and me'thinks (just an opinion here) Lae'zel is of a high order making her comments and such a 'know your role' experience, purposely.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by bullse:

While I have some tendency to agree, Gith are a strict militaristic hierarchy based society and me'thinks (just an opinion here) Lae'zel is of a high order making her comments and such a 'know your role' experience, purposely.

I suppose that could be possible, but since she is a level 1, and mentions that she was very dedicated to her studies/lessons when she notices Jergel the Scribe's statue and her devotion and loyalty when cutting her cousin's throat at a command, tells me that she is a bit new to this and not yet 'seasoned'.

Still, regardless of that, I have seen it in a few games and mentioned it. Like when in Dragon Age: Inquisition my female elf became literally the FIRST Elven Templar there should have been SOME big notice or feedback from the NPC's and your crew, even if it was negative it would be SOMETHING... but yea, no mention or notice at all about that feat. It was HIGHLY disappointing. This kind of thing really needs to be fixed in RPG type games, as it seriously breaks immersion, lowers the players 'feel' level of achievement and 'givadamn' to continue playing as they will suspect (possibly rightly so) that other such lore immersive achievements will end the same way, in disappointment, so why bother trying another class.

[Brian Sirith]

Originally posted by War Maiden:

Originally posted by bullse:

While I have some tendency to agree, Gith are a strict militaristic hierarchy based society and me'thinks (just an opinion here) Lae'zel is of a high order making her comments and such a 'know your role' experience, purposely.

I suppose that could be possible, but since she is a level 1, and mentions that she was very dedicated to her studies/lessons when she notices Jergel the Scribe's statue and her devotion and loyalty when cutting her cousin's throat at a command, tells me that she is a bit new to this and not yet 'seasoned'.

Still, regardless of that, I have seen it in a few games and mentioned it. Like when in Dragon Age: Inquisition my female elf became literally the FIRST Elven Templar there should have been SOME big notice or feedback from the NPC's and your crew, even if it was negative it would be SOMETHING... but yea, no mention or notice at all about that feat. It was HIGHLY disappointing. This kind of thing really needs to be fixed in RPG type games, as it seriously breaks immersion, lowers the players 'feel' level of achievement and 'givadamn' to continue playing as they will suspect (possibly rightly so) that other such lore immersive achievements will end the same way, in disappointment, so why bother trying another class.

I thought Inquisition did it better on the whole though. I remember Josephine talking about my aunts parties and knowing my family -I was playing a human noble- and a lot of small things like that. And people generally treated me different or so I understand, that if you play a non human there's prejudice and all that.

Here as a Baldur's gate nobleman, Astarion never heard of me, that Duke's assistant never heard of me and I havent got a single line of dialog. Might as well have been an Innkeeper in the city.

Sorry for the rant. I do hope they fix it. As you say it is highly disappointing and breaks immersion.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by Brian Sirith:

Originally posted by War Maiden:

I suppose that could be possible, but since she is a level 1, and mentions that she was very dedicated to her studies/lessons when she notices Jergel the Scribe's statue and her devotion and loyalty when cutting her cousin's throat at a command, tells me that she is a bit new to this and not yet 'seasoned'.

Still, regardless of that, I have seen it in a few games and mentioned it. Like when in Dragon Age: Inquisition my female elf became literally the FIRST Elven Templar there should have been SOME big notice or feedback from the NPC's and your crew, even if it was negative it would be SOMETHING... but yea, no mention or notice at all about that feat. It was HIGHLY disappointing. This kind of thing really needs to be fixed in RPG type games, as it seriously breaks immersion, lowers the players 'feel' level of achievement and 'givadamn' to continue playing as they will suspect (possibly rightly so) that other such lore immersive achievements will end the same way, in disappointment, so why bother trying another class.

I thought Inquisition did it better on the whole though. I remember Josephine talking about my aunts parties and knowing my family -I was playing a human noble- and a lot of small things like that. And people generally treated me different or so I understand, that if you play a non human there's prejudice and all that.

Here as a Baldur's gate nobleman, Astarion never heard of me, that Duke's assistant never heard of me and I havent got a single line of dialog. Might as well have been an Innkeeper in the city.

Sorry for the rant. I do hope they fix it. As you say it is highly disappointing and breaks immersion.

Well, Josie did know A LOT of people. Her role as the court appointed diplomat to Orlais and being a trained Bard no less, would give her insight on a lot of people. For her to be speaking to you as one noble to another and the parties that she no doubtingly attended, it makes sense that she would be familiar with them, as would most probably good ol' Viv.
They did do a good job on recognition in that area, but not so much in the 'bigger' things.

I guess I was just really disappointed. Considering the whole history with the Chantry and their Marches against the Elves when they attempted to take over Orlais, and the obvious prejudice one gets as an elf in general, regardless of their standing, I would have thought that one of them becoming THE VERY FIRST Templar would have been a monumentous shockwave whether it was good or bad. An Elf standing not only with the Chantry, but defending it against all evils and abominations.

There was also the point about a Qunari being the Herald of Andraste. The only one whom besides the Mother in Orlais that you had Liliana arrange a meeting with (and hers was just crowd riling, not really any really expoundsive fussing) gave the most reaction was The Iron Bull. Not that he originally liked me being a mage merc 'deserter of the Qun' but he came around eventually and from the interactions, eventually appreciated my PC and her role. So again, some good and some bad, but still overall the big 'shocking' things didn't seem to get much notice or traction.

[swbrandt]

When I played with a Gith character, I did have very different conversations with Lae'zel than normal. It sounds like it's not working properly for you.