I don't like Gondians. I understand Wulbren Bongle.

[Fried Noodles]

He's not a jerk. He just wants to HELP the Gondians.
He knows that the Gondians just really want to die.

That's why they charge into melee range of Steel Watchers that have primed their self-destruction.

That's why they'll Misty Step into the middle of three enemies when they only have 12 hit points.

Also, is there any point in trying to save all the Gondians?
Or most of the Gondians?

I've already rescued everyone under the sea, but the mission in the foundry seems worse.

[Omegatherion]

Yeah, the second floor must be the single worst room in the entire game if you really want to save everyone.
But Patch 6 actually made that room way easier. The gnomes are actually more tanky now and not as stupid anymore. So it is possible if you have enough burst damage and/or control spells to shut down a bunch of enemies before they can act.

[seeker1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClezDg8n6uw

Two white nerds rapping. Maybe they could at least get some backing from Weird Al Yankovic ("gonna catch me white and nerdy".)

[Oozy Monster]

Originally posted by Omegatherion:

Yeah, the second floor must be the single worst room in the entire game if you really want to save everyone.
But Patch 6 actually made that room way easier. The gnomes are actually more tanky now and not as stupid anymore. So it is possible if you have enough burst damage and/or control spells to shut down a bunch of enemies before they can act.

I actually saved all the Gondians by going to the second floor early, when they're still hostile. Killed everyone not Gondian, ran away and saved everyone in the prison. When I came back, Gondians lose their hostility (though they will not like anyone involved in the fight, so if you want to talk to them bring in a different party member). You do have to initially tank their attacks, but they're not a serious threat compared to the Steel Watchers and the Banites.

[brendan_in_china]

Gondians themselves don't like Gondians. They fail to use ladders to escape, or skip turns waiting as water onrush drowns them. They like to stand next to exploding droids and provoke OA like crazy.

Also Wulbrun delivers the best 'effing Gondians!' line in the game. That alone won me.

[Brian_the_Brute]

Gondians know they were wrong to make the Steel Watchers and that they were too weak to do the right thing. They allowed an entire city to be enslaved with the tools they created. They put their lives over the lives of the entire city.

[seeker1]

I think the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tyrant who put the Gondians' spouses, childen, and family members into an underwater prison, and on top of it put exploding collars around their neck that their Banite apostles like to detonate, is the one most responsible for creating the Steel Watch.

Sure, the Gondians had the skills. Unfortunately, said tyrant used typical techniques of tyrants to force them to build them. That Wulbren can't understand this is his problem. I think he's mainly motivated by jealousy.

Spoiler?

Having Barcus replace that douchebag as leader of the Iron Hands is SO satisfying.

Again: "♥♥♥♥ Wulbren Bongle".

[Dr.Abscondus]

For me Wulbren died in Moonrise Tower because he ran back to fight the guards instead of running to the escape boat which was much closer. I left him to it. Later I found his body on the gore heap under the prison and looted my stuff back. Now I just have to save the ones in the Steel Gonks factory. The head Gondian should be named Oppenheimer. That would really drive home the point they're trying to make.