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Invictus Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:11pm
Can the Balthazar fight even be done?
I've been at this fight at the end of Act 2 for over FOUR HOURS. I've seen the videos with the supposed "push" hacks, they don't work anymore. As soon as you get close enough, either the dialog starts, or he just attacks. He starts by running all over the map, 2-shotting Gale to death, and summoning more undead than anyone can deal with. I'm close to giving up on this game entirely. Could really use some advice or CURRENT hacks that actually work. TIA
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Wilkas Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:17pm 
It can be done. You can't just attack, you need to cc him, silence him, doing things other than just "damage".
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[bYa]Fox Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:18pm 
Originally posted by Invictus:
I've been at this fight at the end of Act 2 for over FOUR HOURS. I've seen the videos with the supposed "push" hacks, they don't work anymore. As soon as you get close enough, either the dialog starts, or he just attacks. He starts by running all over the map, 2-shotting Gale to death, and summoning more undead than anyone can deal with. I'm close to giving up on this game entirely. Could really use some advice or CURRENT hacks that actually work. TIA
Yes it can but can I get more info? What level are you using and who are you using besides gale?
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Invictus Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:20pm 
Originally posted by bYaFox:
Yes it can but can I get more info? What level are you using and who are you using besides gale?

I've tried every other combination possible, but I've been keeping him for his fireball. But it seems he's only good for one turn (if that) and then he's dead.
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Invictus Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:21pm 
Oh, and we're level 6.
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Sonic Titan Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:22pm 
Originally posted by Invictus:
Oh, and we're level 6.
6? Ooft.
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Invictus Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by Sonic Titan:
Originally posted by Invictus:
Oh, and we're level 6.
6? Ooft.

I've done everything I can to level, but there just aren't many places to grind. Or are there? What do you think is the minimum level to survive this slaughter?
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Mike Garrison Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:32pm 
Originally posted by Invictus:
Originally posted by Sonic Titan:
6? Ooft.

I've done everything I can to level, but there just aren't many places to grind. Or are there? What do you think is the minimum level to survive this slaughter?
You missed a *lot* of content. Not surprising -- I did too the first time I played it. I was level 9, or maybe 10, when I met the Nightsong in my latest playthrough.

For future reference, it is easier to take out Balthazar in his room at the start of the gauntlet. He has undead allies there, too, but not as dangerous.

Stunning or silencing Balthazar pretty much makes him helpless. It's easier to do in his room, IMO. I had Lae'Zel hit him with her soulbreaker sword and he was dead in two turns before he even got unstunned.
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Disorganic Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:40pm 
Sharts turn undead / destroy undead keeps the melee skeletons away. radiant armor synergies and Lawnmower mode (click heels + haste from Gale + and spirit guardians should take care of those things.

gale has grease. Laezel should have boots for walking on grease. martial skills like knockdown work great. Counterspell. you should have approximately 18,000 scrolls and arrows in your backpack at this point, some of which can create icy surfaces or web. If you're bringing wyll you should be able to EB snipe/ knock at least two skeletons into the void. karlach can throw them into the void.
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Invictus Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:43pm 
Originally posted by Mike Garrison:
You missed a *lot* of content. Not surprising -- I did too the first time I played it. I was level 9, or maybe 10, when I met the Nightsong in my latest playthrough.

For future reference, it is easier to take out Balthazar in his room at the start of the gauntlet. He has undead allies there, too, but not as dangerous.

Stunning or silencing Balthazar pretty much makes him helpless. It's easier to do in his room, IMO. I had Lae'Zel hit him with her soulbreaker sword and he was dead in two turns before he even got unstunned.

I don't even have the Soulbreaker sword, so yeah... I suppose I've missed a lot. I thought I covered just about everything, but apparently not. Neither of my casters (Shadowheart or Gale) have a silence spell, I suppose I have to look into that, though I also surmise he will just teleport out of it.

Thank you all for being patient with this noob. But I even reduced the difficulty level and still got absolutely smoked. I'll try playing around with my spells to get more cc.
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Metallicus Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:47pm 
I am usually level 7 when I begin chapter 2 so I am not sure how you are that far into chapter 2 and are still level 6. One other thing you can do is sneak into the room from the backside and unlock the door that is currently locked. Balthazar will be killed by the NPCs in the next room. No fighting required so your level will be irrelevant.
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Mike Garrison Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:51pm 
Originally posted by Invictus:
But I even reduced the difficulty level and still got absolutely smoked.
Well, being under-leveled doesn't help either.

If you are already in the Shadowfell, you can't go back for a lot of the Act 1 and Act 2 content that you apparently missed. And, trying to avoid spoilers, but it's going to be really hard for you to get past the first fight in Act 3.

However, if you can do it, Act 3 has a lot of ways to gain more exp.

But all this means that you have a lot to still experience in a second run.
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Invictus Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:51pm 
Originally posted by Metallicus:
I am usually level 7 when I begin chapter 2 so I am not sure how you are that far into chapter 2 and are still level 6. One other thing you can do is sneak into the room from the backside and unlock the door that is currently locked. Balthazar will be killed by the NPCs in the next room. No fighting required so your level will be irrelevant.

At which stage of the Act? I meet up with him during the Nightsong encounter, and there is only one entrance....
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Mike Garrison Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:52pm 
Originally posted by Metallicus:
I am usually level 7 when I begin chapter 2 so I am not sure how you are that far into chapter 2 and are still level 6. One other thing you can do is sneak into the room from the backside and unlock the door that is currently locked. Balthazar will be killed by the NPCs in the next room. No fighting required so your level will be irrelevant.
He's apparently in the Shadowfell, because he's talking about pushing skellies into the void.
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Invictus Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:53pm 
Originally posted by Mike Garrison:
But all this means that you have a lot to still experience in a second run.

Honestly, I'm thinking of packing it in with this character and just starting again, since I've apparently missed so much. I guess I need to look for an online guide or something.
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Invictus Mar 14, 2024 @ 9:54pm 
Originally posted by Mike Garrison:
He's apparently in the Shadowfell, because he's talking about pushing skellies into the void.

Yes, the Shadowsong encounter after the full Gauntlet of Shar.
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