Soooo... What Happens if you defy Vlaakith as a Cleric of Vlaakith?

[chefcook90]

Do you lose your powers? Do you need to choose another god to worship?

[Recjawjind]

If you piss her off big time, you lose a bit more than just your powers.

[Chaosolous]

My favorite reload in the entire game was when I implied Vlaakith was weak and lazy while talking to her and then I exploded into a million pieces because she wished me to death.

[chefcook90]

Originally posted by Recjawjind:

If you piss her off big time, you lose a bit more than just your powers.

Nah, I just mean when she labels Lazael and a gith PC heretics for entering the Astral Prism, but not killing the Dream Visitor like she told you to.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by chefcook90:

Do you lose your powers? Do you need to choose another god to worship?

Do you really need to ask?
She is a Lich. An actual Lich. Hence why she has ruled the Gith for so long. Not only that, but she is a high level Lich. So --- yea. She also knows a particular spell that is probably the most epic one in existence. It is, from my knowledge, an unavoidable spell that needs certain resistances to evade, but if one doesn't, then they die.

Power Word: Kill

[Anima Mundi]

Originally posted by chefcook90:

Originally posted by Recjawjind:

If you piss her off big time, you lose a bit more than just your powers.

Nah, I just mean when she labels Lazael and a gith PC heretics for entering the Astral Prism, but not killing the Dream Visitor like she told you to.

Nothing. It's not like she is even a real god. more of a low level scrub deity with some power bordering godhood.
I don't even understand if the whole cleric of Vlaakith thing makes sense tbh

[Xan]

In the lore, clerics who lose the favour of their god lose their powers, period (and may lose a lot more than that). There is no actual mechanic in 5e to deal with this though, nor is there really in bg3.

[Tingly]

If I remember correctly, In 5th edition D&D the lore was changed so that a cleric's powers come from their own faith and devotion, rather than something that the God specifically allows to happen or gives.

Your cleric might be courting a punishment from Vlaakith anyway, but your powers would still work even if it's dubious that your character is still devoted to them.

[Xan]

Originally posted by Tingly:

If I remember correctly, In 5th edition D&D the lore was changed so that a cleric's powers come from their own faith and devotion, rather than something that the God specifically allows to happen or gives.

Your cleric might be courting a punishment from Vlaakith anyway, but your powers would still work even if it's dubious that your character is still devoted to them.

I thought that was how it worked for paladins and their oaths, not clerics.

[chefcook90]

Originally posted by Xan:

In the lore, clerics who lose the favour of their god lose their powers, period (and may lose a lot more than that). There is no actual mechanic in 5e to deal with this though, nor is there really in bg3.

Yeah, that's how I thought it worked.

Interesting to know there's no actual mechanic in 5e that addresses it though lol

Originally posted by Tingly:

If I remember correctly, In 5th edition D&D the lore was changed so that a cleric's powers come from their own faith and devotion, rather than something that the God specifically allows to happen or gives.

Your cleric might be courting a punishment from Vlaakith anyway, but your powers would still work even if it's dubious that your character is still devoted to them.

Wait, so what about all that Time of Troubles stuff where Clerics could only use their powers if they were standing within 1 mile of their God's physical body?

[Xan]

Originally posted by chefcook90:

Originally posted by Xan:

In the lore, clerics who lose the favour of their god lose their powers, period (and may lose a lot more than that). There is no actual mechanic in 5e to deal with this though, nor is there really in bg3.

Yeah, that's how I thought it worked.

Interesting to know there's no actual mechanic in 5e that addresses it though lol

Originally posted by Tingly:

If I remember correctly, In 5th edition D&D the lore was changed so that a cleric's powers come from their own faith and devotion, rather than something that the God specifically allows to happen or gives.

Your cleric might be courting a punishment from Vlaakith anyway, but your powers would still work even if it's dubious that your character is still devoted to them.

Wait, so what about all that Time of Troubles stuff where Clerics could only use their powers if they were standing within 1 mile of their God's physical body?

iirc there was some event following that called the "spellplague" (might be mixing it up with something else) which changed how magic worked period. Pretty much every spell caster changed.

[chefcook90]

Originally posted by Xan:

Originally posted by chefcook90:

Yeah, that's how I thought it worked.

Interesting to know there's no actual mechanic in 5e that addresses it though lol


Wait, so what about all that Time of Troubles stuff where Clerics could only use their powers if they were standing within 1 mile of their God's physical body?

iirc there was some event following that called the "spellplague" (might be mixing it up with something else) which changed how magic worked period. Pretty much every spell caster changed.

lol omg, I'm reading up on the Spellplague, and I gotta say, Shar is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DUMB ASS.

When Mystryl died after the whole Karsus' Folly thing, Shar lost like, 95% of her divine Portfolio - what did she think would happen if the Weave got destroyed a SECOND time?

(for those of you who don't know, Shar was originally goddess of Darkness, Night, Winter, Lies, Betrayal, Hatred, Murder, Seduction, Trickery, Thieves, Nightmares, Sleep, and Illusions - now she's just the goddess of Darkness and Loss :P)

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by chefcook90:

Originally posted by Xan:

iirc there was some event following that called the "spellplague" (might be mixing it up with something else) which changed how magic worked period. Pretty much every spell caster changed.

lol omg, I'm reading up on the Spellplague, and I gotta say, Shar is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DUMB ASS.

When Mystryl died after the whole Karsus' Folly thing, Shar lost like, 95% of her divine Portfolio - what did she think would happen if the Weave got destroyed a SECOND time?

(for those of you who don't know, Shar was originally goddess of Darkness, Night, Winter, Lies, Betrayal, Hatred, Murder, Seduction, Trickery, Thieves, Nightmares, Sleep, and Illusions - now she's just the goddess of Darkness and Loss :P)

Well, considering she was one twin of the original Goddess's, it makes sense that she inherits all the 'dark' bit of Yang, while Selune gets all the Yin. But since more Gods and Goddess's came into existence, it makes sense they would delegate certain aspects of their creation powers to them. I mean, Shar has enough to deal concerning her sister, and world domination to deal with all those other creation aspects. Best to just shrug them off to some lesser Gods and Goddess's, yes?