ARPG's with deep character creation and narrative like BG3 ?

[Leon]

Looking for a game that has character creation and and storytelling as deep as BG3/Pillars of Eternity but with action combat and isometric view like Diablo

Does such a thing even exist ?

[Maraxus]

I have also thought about this and wonder why no such game exists lol.

[JoeTGB]

The XCom series is worth looking into for you

[Ironwu]

None. Zero. Nada.

BG3 is Unique and a generational advancement on CRPGs.

[Dagný]

The closest game is Dragon Age Origins, but it's not action rpg

[Richard Steel]

There's this new game called World of Warcraft Classic, Season of Discovery. Its WoW Classic, so not actually new at all (or 20 years new depending on how you look at it), but in SOD, they added a few new things, so its like a whole new game! You can choose different races, body type 1 or 2, and different hair styles, colors, and skin textures. And of course the story is cool, and plays kind of like a Diablo! (Blizzard game and all)

[Blanch Warren]

Not that I am aware of. I like Dragon Age Origins as a somewhat closed-world RPG, but I would suggest it's skill system is even more limited than BG3's streamlining from DND, which is actually good on a number of points. I would still highly recommend it though. it's skill system is still entertaining, you just notice that it's quite limited on later replays.

Despite it's mythic paths, Wrath of the Righteous looks railroaded in terms of character choices. Grim Dawn is a spiritual successor to Diablo but it's not much of an RPG. Divinity 2 was an action RPG, but again, without much in the way of RPG choice. But it is quite cheap on sale, and I recommend it.

Neverwinter Nights was a classic back in the day, but again, lacks different story paths. NWN 2 has two paths but you have to trudge through the coastline before you get to the city, and it's evil path is the thieves guild rather than the Necromancers you fight. Although I like what they tried to do with it, I don't actually recommend it as much as the original.

[Maraxus]

I'd love a game with the action/tactics of this sc2 mission:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lTEclLFwbk

And with the big dungeons, cities, deep classes, npcs, stories of dnd!

[psychotron666]

I'd say closest (and again not an arpg) would be pillars of eternity played on the lowest difficulty could probably be played like an arpg - it's real time with pause like dragon age or bg 2, with tons of abilities and way deeper character building and writing than bg 3, but on lowest difficulty you could likely not need to pause and can use all your abilities in real time and itd kind of be like a more complex diablo.

Otherwise typically isometric arpgs are usually just 100% combat.

There's plenty of RPGs with deeper writing and combat than bg3, but they're typically crpgs.

There's also fallout new Vegas as a deep arpg, it's just not isometric and instead is first person.

[Lywelyn]

closest you'l lget is this, although that's an ARPG alright, it is not a crpg or anything related to tabletop game at all.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/219990/Grim_Dawn/

[Dexter in the Dark]

the oldschool fallout games are the only thing that comes to mind

[Leon]

Thanks everybody

Originally posted by Maraxus:

I have also thought about this and wonder why no such game exists lol.

Yeah right. A well designed game mixing up CRPGs storytelling and ARPGs combat would sell like crazy
Just market it as "Baldurs Gate meets Diablo" and see the $magic$ happen

Originally posted by Dagný:

The closest game is Dragon Age Origins, but it's not action rpg

Originally posted by Blanch Warren:

Not that I am aware of. I like Dragon Age Origins as a somewhat closed-world RPG, but I would suggest it's skill system is even more limited than BG3's streamlining from DND, which is actually good on a number of points. I would still highly recommend it though. it's skill system is still entertaining, you just notice that it's quite limited on later replays.

I will look into it
Oh, and, are there Cleric, Paladins, Holy classes in Dragon Age ?

Originally posted by Richard Steel:

There's this new game called World of Warcraft Classic, Season of Discovery. Its WoW Classic, so not actually new at all (or 20 years new depending on how you look at it), but in SOD, they added a few new things, so its like a whole new game! You can choose different races, body type 1 or 2, and different hair styles, colors, and skin textures. And of course the story is cool, and plays kind of like a Diablo! (Blizzard game and all)

Is this a new WoW edition? WoW is an MMO right?
I'm really not into MMO's, but if this new edition is a "single players edition" , it would really pick my interest

Originally posted by psychotron666:

I'd say closest (and again not an arpg) would be pillars of eternity played on the lowest difficulty could probably be played like an arpg - it's real time with pause like dragon age or bg 2, with tons of abilities and way deeper character building and writing than bg 3, but on lowest difficulty you could likely not need to pause and can use all your abilities in real time and itd kind of be like a more complex diablo.

I loved almost everything in Pillars of Eternity (well, everything i got to see in the few hours i played it)
Character creation is a dream. The narrative in book format with choices like old Choose-your-own-adventure/Fighting Fantasy is just PERFECT, PERFECT DOWN TO THE LAST MINUTE DETAIL

But then the combat happens, and tho i'm a TTRPG player, i dont like it in a video game
If the combat in this game was ,like i said, Diablo, it would be the best game ever made

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Leon:

Yeah right. A well designed game mixing up CRPGs storytelling and ARPGs combat would sell like crazy
Just market it as "Baldurs Gate meets Diablo" and see the $magic$ happen

The real question is which studio do we trust to make an ARPG that has the cinematic and storytelling gravitas that Larian and old-school Bioware could present? And not just cinematics like Sony PlayStation games do, but actual choice/consequence?

I don't think Larian would take it on. They excel at turn-based games and that is their forte. Anything other than that would be a huge shot in the dark for them.

I don't think anyone trusts Bioware anymore.

So who does that leave?

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

No, there aren't any.

[Actalo]

Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous is, I'd argue, comparable with BG3 as far as deep story and lore but it's truly isometric so no cinematic dialogue. It's also mostly text with only some dialogue. And, too, the Pathfinder system is way more complicated that 5th Edition D&D so it's rather inaccessible to your average BG3 fan who wants to play a story-driven dating sim. Although, to be fair, one of the WOTR characters is basically a anime succubus.

[Maraxus]

Originally posted by Leon:

Thanks everybody

Originally posted by Maraxus:

I have also thought about this and wonder why no such game exists lol.

Yeah right. A well designed game mixing up CRPGs storytelling and ARPGs combat would sell like crazy
Just market it as "Baldurs Gate meets Diablo" and see the $magic$ happen

It's almost like a no brainer, although maybe getting both aspects to work well might be challenging.