Question about multiclass barbarian

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I have never tried multiclassing.
So... i have a lvl 10 barbarian.
And his best abilities in my opinion are lvl 5 double attack and lvl 7 speed if no armor.
The lvl 10 ability seems like pure garbage.

Can i make lvl 7 barbarian and 3 levels into rogue thief, to get the double bonus action?

is that how multiclass work?

[psychotron666]

Yes that's how multi class works.

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Originally posted by psychotron666:

Yes that's how multi class works.

Will i get any disadvantage from losing 3 levels of barb? like some sort of scaling stats i lose ?
or i only lose the abilities that those 3 levels were giving ?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by KroniusBlack:

Question about multiclass barbarian
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3139559800

I have never tried multiclassing.
So... i have a lvl 10 barbarian.
And his best abilities in my opinion are lvl 5 double attack and lvl 7 speed if no armor.
The lvl 10 ability seems like pure garbage.

Can i make lvl 7 barbarian and 3 levels into rogue thief, to get the double bonus action?

is that how multiclass work?

^
Kinda. What exactly is your plan on the long run?
Also, see here for a beginner tour about multiclassing.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3114624793
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3124459563

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Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by KroniusBlack:

Question about multiclass barbarian
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3139559800

I have never tried multiclassing.
So... i have a lvl 10 barbarian.
And his best abilities in my opinion are lvl 5 double attack and lvl 7 speed if no armor.
The lvl 10 ability seems like pure garbage.

Can i make lvl 7 barbarian and 3 levels into rogue thief, to get the double bonus action?

is that how multiclass work?

^
Kinda. What exactly is your plan on the long run?
Also, see here for a beginner tour about multiclassing.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3114624793
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3124459563

awesome thanks, so i need lvl 3 rogue thieft to have 2 bonus actions on my barb meaning i can only have lvl 7 barb which means i dont get the second FEAT at lvl 8 which means it sucks.
i guess ill just stay full barb

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by KroniusBlack:

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Yes that's how multi class works.

Will i get any disadvantage from losing 3 levels of barb? like some sort of scaling stats i lose ?
or i only lose the abilities that those 3 levels were giving ?

The only disadvantage you get is you don't get any barbarian specific abilities from level 8-10.

Every class will get a feat every 4 levels of a class, so you'll give up the barbarian level 8 feat (if you go level 4 in rogue once you hit level 11, you can get a feat there instead). Otherwise all you'll "lose" is the brutal critical ability of level 9 and the level 10 sub class ability.

Otherwise there are no scaling stats you give up. The scaling stats (proficiency bonus and increased cantrip damage) are based on overall level, not specific class levels

[Deleted *******]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Originally posted by KroniusBlack:

Will i get any disadvantage from losing 3 levels of barb? like some sort of scaling stats i lose ?
or i only lose the abilities that those 3 levels were giving ?

The only disadvantage you get is you don't get any barbarian specific abilities from level 8-10.

Every class will get a feat every 4 levels of a class, so you'll give up the barbarian level 8 feat (if you go level 4 in rogue once you hit level 11, you can get a feat there instead). Otherwise all you'll "lose" is the brutal critical ability of level 9 and the level 10 sub class ability.

Otherwise there are no scaling stats you give up. The scaling stats (proficiency bonus and increased cantrip damage) are based on overall level, not specific class levels

now that i think about it, i can go lvl 8 barb (with the second feat) and lvl 2 fighter
(for the extra free attack on short rest)
is the best option for lvl 10 barb right ?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by KroniusBlack:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

^

Kinda. What exactly is your plan on the long run?
Also, see here for a beginner tour about multiclassing.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3114624793
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3124459563

awesome thanks, so i need lvl 3 rogue thieft to have 2 bonus actions on my barb meaning i can only have lvl 7 barb which means i dont get the second FEAT at lvl 8 which means it sucks.
i guess ill just stay full barb

If you are playing Berserker it is fine to go for Berserker 8 / Thief 4

That way you get the maximum numbers of Feats and the skills from 8 onwards with Barbarian are not that good. The cost/benefit ration goes indeed towards thief, where you make a plus with the fact that the extra bonus action is beneficial when used together with the frenzied bonus actions.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by KroniusBlack:

Originally posted by psychotron666:

The only disadvantage you get is you don't get any barbarian specific abilities from level 8-10.

Every class will get a feat every 4 levels of a class, so you'll give up the barbarian level 8 feat (if you go level 4 in rogue once you hit level 11, you can get a feat there instead). Otherwise all you'll "lose" is the brutal critical ability of level 9 and the level 10 sub class ability.

Otherwise there are no scaling stats you give up. The scaling stats (proficiency bonus and increased cantrip damage) are based on overall level, not specific class levels

now that i think about it, i can go lvl 8 barb (with the second feat) and lvl 2 fighter
(for the extra free attack on short rest)
is the best option for lvl 10 barb right ?

No. There you make a typical red herring mistake.

Action Surge is nice, etc. yadayada, but the synergy is no good at all. The Thief's bonus action plus you have in every turn during combat, while Action Surge only once at best. You would lose out on a Feat which, when picked correctly, is more valuable than that.

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Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by KroniusBlack:

now that i think about it, i can go lvl 8 barb (with the second feat) and lvl 2 fighter
(for the extra free attack on short rest)
is the best option for lvl 10 barb right ?

No. There you make a typical red herring mistake.

Action Surge is nice, etc. yadayada, but the synergy is no good at all. The Thief's bonus action plus you have in every turn during combat, while Action Surge only once at best. You would lose out on a Feat which, when picked correctly, is more valuable than that.

yeah thanks, i think you are correct, but in the situation of lvl 10 barb right now the warrior 2 barb 8 is the best option.
I will switch to rogue 4 barb 8 when i reach lvl 12, thats probably not any time soon.

[psychotron666]

Level cap is 12. So you can mix and match whatever you want for up to 12. 8/4 is almost always good combo.

Another interesting bg3 combo is you can go 8 barbarian, 3 thief and 1 monk. The monk allows you to make an extra unarmed attack (with increased damage) as a bonus action (as long as you don't have armour, which you likely don't as a barbarian), and you can use the thief extra bonus action for 2 extra attacks. Mix that with tavern brawler and it's a pretty busted combo.
Of course you get one less feat, but that's not a bad trade off.

[Kamuizin]

You're going berserker, i believe, yes?

From my shallow pov, the simple can sometimes be the better, like a Barb 9 / Rogue 3.

You can also trade the Brutal Critical (lvl 9 barbarian) for a lvl 1 fighter and get yourself the "Great Weapon Fighting" if you're doing 2h weapon barbarian, since Barbarian and Rogue class don't have access to fighting style.

I think this combo better (Barb 8 / Rogue 3 / Fighter 1), but i'm too new in BG3 to be sure. May be a bit frustating that second wind is so near but unreachable, but life is like this.

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Level cap is 12. So you can mix and match whatever you want for up to 12. 8/4 is almost always good combo.

Another interesting bg3 combo is you can go 8 barbarian, 3 thief and 1 monk. The monk allows you to make an extra unarmed attack (with increased damage) as a bonus action (as long as you don't have armour, which you likely don't as a barbarian), and you can use the thief extra bonus action for 2 extra attacks. Mix that with tavern brawler and it's a pretty busted combo.
Of course you get one less feat, but that's not a bad trade off.

This may be in conflict with Berserker, as the Frenzied Attack use a bonus action and you may find youself short of bonus action to use it. Flurry of blows already make a x2 attack and Martial Arts: Bonus Unarmed Strike does the same as frenzied strike. You're out of bonus actions for the frenzied strike unless you can get somehow 3 bonus actions (may be possible, i don't know how).

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by KroniusBlack:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

No. There you make a typical red herring mistake.

Action Surge is nice, etc. yadayada, but the synergy is no good at all. The Thief's bonus action plus you have in every turn during combat, while Action Surge only once at best. You would lose out on a Feat which, when picked correctly, is more valuable than that.

yeah thanks, i think you are correct, but in the situation of lvl 10 barb right now the warrior 2 barb 8 is the best option.
I will switch to rogue 4 barb 8 when i reach lvl 12, thats probably not any time soon.

Fair enough.
With future respec taken into consideration your conclusion has for you the best result at the moment.