Surprisingly Minthara is one of the best companions

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its weird that this companion is so hard to get that probably less than 1% of players had her. But her story is actually really cool

spoilers:

Turns out she is from a royal family of the richest of her kind, and that she and her mother had assasination atempts on her by other royal families like game of thrones style.

And then she was "sold" by ketheric to Orin, and Orin did all sorts of torchures with her, including putting the tad pole into her.

She has her own mission of revenge, and no matter what she respected Ketheric even after we kill him in the story.

And from what i understand she is a virgin, since she claims that she was scared to allow a "lover" into her life because she was paranoid that every smiling male was planning to put a knife in her heart during her sleep, until your character saves her.

I expected this to be a throwaway character with allmost no story and a few new dialogues, but she is actually pretty big. I would even say she is in the top 3 companions for me.

[seeker1]

Her backstory is very interesting, and I agree. She is definitely not the "stereotypically" evil person some folks think. She's the product of a very f'd up Drow society, and then in turn betrayal and manipulation by the Absolute. I love dialogues with her.

I think Larian needs to finish completing/writing all her dialogue interactions and especially her romance. They may not have needed to do this before when so few could get her, at least through "legit" means, through resorting to something most people won't do.

But her backstory is fascinating. Totally agreed. She is anything but 1-dimensional. She definitely is constantly seeking power and advantage, sure. But if you lived in a society where weak people could be betrayed by so many, and killed even by friends or their own mothers, you get HOW she got this way. She is NOT Lolth-Sworn and gave her up for embracing the Absolute, and that was already ... creating 'problems' with others of her people.

Just as an aside, I think the lore about the Drow in D & D is very rich, deep, and interesting, too.

[Gentoo]

She's far more interesting than Halsin for sure.

[northernwater]

Originally posted by KroniusBlack:

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And from what i understand she is a virgin,

That's hard to believe.

[mike_hanna211]

She's a drow, so she gets the end of my blade every playthrough. AND, she's a leader of the goblins.

[ahsanford]

(spoilers)

She's an interesting *outline* for a character, yes, but sadly her game experience is heavily undercooked vs. the others:

* There are no real Act to Act side quests from her compared to other part-timers you get in BG3: there is nothing resembling the raison d'etre of Halsin's Shadow Curse arc, no heavily 'Jaheira ought to be here' sidebars with the Harpers or helping track down Minsc, etc.

* There is nigh zero inter-party banter with her when you explore with your party. That's a massive letdown to me. It's a small thing that breathes life/connection into the game.

* She always a bit mercenary and never acts like a member of the team. I get that's her writing/backstory, but goodness they could have fleshed that out a bit.

* Other than her 'trial' at moonrise and subsequent jailbreak, she doesn't get any in-game cutscenes that I can recall.

You get my point: she has great potential, but we don't get to enjoy a great lived character experience with her. She needs more.

- A

[AlmightyDunkle]

Originally posted by mike_hanna211:

She's a drow, so she gets the end of my blade every playthrough. AND, she's a leader of the goblins. :caststrength:

It is learnt not by complete choice.

[AlmightyDunkle]

My favourite is her reaction to Dribbles:

"Say the word and I will kill the clown. We will be praised as heroes."

[seeker1]

Originally posted by ahsanford:

(spoilers)
She's an interesting *outline* for a character, yes, but sadly her game experience is heavily undercooked vs. the others:

Concur. They have to finish baking her dialogue and romance. Once she comes out a more finished cake, I think it will be very tasty.

I'm hoping this will happen in upcoming patches.

[brendan_in_china]

I'm very happy with her in my party, got her spec'ced as a duelwielding paladin with deva mace and Nerulnyr. Her romance is sweet and compact, her backstory ties in nicely. She has a few quips her and there. And mighty smites.

I do like her attack on the grove though, so each play through has hard choice.

[Darth Cannabis]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Her backstory is very interesting, and I agree. She is definitely not the "stereotypically" evil person some folks think. She's the product of a very f'd up Drow society, and then in turn betrayal and manipulation by the Absolute. I love dialogues with her.

I think Larian needs to finish completing/writing all her dialogue interactions and especially her romance. They may not have needed to do this before when so few could get her, at least through "legit" means, through resorting to something most people won't do.

But her backstory is fascinating. Totally agreed. She is anything but 1-dimensional. She definitely is constantly seeking power and advantage, sure. But if you lived in a society where weak people could be betrayed by so many, and killed even by friends or their own mothers, you get HOW she got this way. She is NOT Lolth-Sworn and gave her up for embracing the Absolute, and that was already ... creating 'problems' with others of her people.

Just as an aside, I think the lore about the Drow in D & D is very rich, deep, and interesting, too.

I agree, except due to lolth sworn drow being considered her race, she is Lolth sworn drow.
She is not a current follower of Lolth (and I apologize for anyone who get offended by the following comparison, hate that I have to go there to make the point), but much in the way a Jewish person who doesn't follow Judaism is still considered Jewish, she is still considered Lolth Sworn Drow.

[seeker1]

I know we've already had this discussion, and I think we mostly agree to the point where there's nothing else worth arguing. *smiles*

Incidentally, as an aside, the thing is, being Jewish is an ethnicity as well as a religion, so it is definitely the case that there are Jews (ethnically) who are also atheists, Christians, Buddhists, and whatever else. Many were raised in the Jewish religion, ... some were not.

So, I find your analogy interesting insofar as "Lolth-sworn Drow" is a RACE identifier, and in D & D that kind of means esp. AFA "subrace"... your ethnicity. "It's part of your cultural background."

[cckim92]

I remember recruit her very first playthrough on day 1. Although lot of dialog missing with awkward recruit attempt as i made emerald grove on roots, rescued halsin before rescued her at moonrise as minthara was standing clipped with him on the very same tent & no camp debut speech. Fortunately the most memorable dialogue of her worked: "If you hadn't save me, i'd just be another enemy for you to strike. Then no one would remember me..."

[Darth Cannabis]

Originally posted by seeker1:

I know we've already had this discussion, and I think we mostly agree to the point where there's nothing else worth arguing. *smiles*

Incidentally, as an aside, the thing is, being Jewish is an ethnicity as well as a religion, so it is definitely the case that there are Jews (ethnically) who are also atheists, Christians, Buddhists, and whatever else. Many were raised in the Jewish religion, ... some were not.

So, I find your analogy interesting insofar as "Lolth-sworn Drow" is a RACE identifier, and in D & D that kind of means esp. AFA "subrace"... your ethnicity. "It's part of your cultural background."

Exactly. that is pretty much all I was getting at.

[Swedeware]

I am completely in love with Minthara.

[Harukage]

She is a Vengeance Paladin. They run around battlefield at supersonic speed and teleport around unhindered while hiting like a cargo train. That alone make Minthara a worthy character, if you are not a Vengeance Paladin yourself. But i agree that even after several patches she is still far from finished as a story character.