Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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yaerav Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:16am
D20 rolls random or weighted?
I picked up BG3 in preorder, but have only seriously made a start with it a week ago. Only at the beginning of act 2 now, and having a blast, it is really something special, and a more than worthy successor to 1 and 2!

I have been noticing something curious though, and I wonder if this is just my typical kind of luck with dice, or if this is an intentional part of the game. I started to get the impression that
I roll a lot of critical fails. To eliminate confirmation bias, I started keeping score of all my visible D20 rolls. And after many die rolls, found that I roll a 1, one in six time. Is that just me and my refusal to sacrifice a goat to the die god, or are D20 rolls in BG3 not 100% random?
Last edited by yaerav; Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:17am
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Orion Invictus Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:17am 
Disable "Karmic Dice" in the settings for actually random* dice.

*Yes, pseudo-random, but indistinguishable from random in every way that matters for this application.
kbiz Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:19am 
As to your first paragraph, awesome!

Turn off karmic dice immediately with extreme prejudice. After that, don't put yourself in a position where you rely on a short string of very bad, terrible, awful rolls.
psychotron666 Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:21am 
I have not had the same experience. I barely roll Crit failures.

And the game has karmic dice on by default, where the game will weigh dice in your favour after bad rolls. You can turn that off though if you want truly random
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yaerav Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:25am 
Ah, thanks for the answers, that is awesome! Will look up that setting right away- And such a relief that this does not point to me being cursed or crazy ;-)
pyrrho Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:36am 
I was ready for another "oh no, here we go..." but:

1) Looking for feedback
2) Assumed confirmation bias first
3) Logged data

There have been a few instances of users creating extensive sets of data from rolls they could follow via log/screen and I think there's one with over 800 logged rolls showing no negative player bias. How many rolls did you track before the 1 in 6 result?

Keep rolling!
harken23 (Banned) Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:49am 
How many die rolls was your sample size? Anything under at LEAST 100 is far too small.
psychotron666 Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by harken23:
How many die rolls was your sample size? Anything under at LEAST 100 is far too small.

I'd say you need closer to 1000 to even be somewhat reliable.
kbiz Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by Orion Invictus:
Disable "Karmic Dice" in the settings for actually random* dice.

*Yes, pseudo-random, but indistinguishable from random in every way that matters for this application.

Pseudo-random? It's as random as a computer can make it. It's not perfect, but it's pretty close.

99.99999% random. Not like other pseudo-things - which are a far cry from reality.
Orion Invictus Jan 14, 2024 @ 7:04am 
Originally posted by kbiz:
Originally posted by Orion Invictus:
Disable "Karmic Dice" in the settings for actually random* dice.

*Yes, pseudo-random, but indistinguishable from random in every way that matters for this application.

Pseudo-random? It's as random as a computer can make it. It's not perfect, but it's pretty close.

99.99999% random. Not like other pseudo-things - which are a far cry from reality.
And "as random as a computer can make it" is called... pseudo-random.
Aerohank Jan 14, 2024 @ 7:15am 
I won't say your experience is invalid. However I myself have not noticed any issues. I play with Karmic dice off.
kbiz Jan 14, 2024 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by Orion Invictus:
Originally posted by kbiz:

Pseudo-random? It's as random as a computer can make it. It's not perfect, but it's pretty close.

99.99999% random. Not like other pseudo-things - which are a far cry from reality.
And "as random as a computer can make it" is called... pseudo-random.

I guess pseudo can vary between 99.9% to maybe 50/50. Flexible word.
yaerav Jan 14, 2024 @ 7:32am 
Originally posted by harken23:
How many die rolls was your sample size? Anything under at LEAST 100 is far too small.
Yeah, my sample size was just 150, that was the limit to how scientific I was prepared to be for this, one reason for posting was to expand it a bit without having to go through more of an effort ;-)

But, with karmic dice now off, I have, of course, started listing the rolls again!
kbiz Jan 14, 2024 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by yaerav:
But, with karmic dice now off, I have, of course, started listing the rolls again!

Not sure how to list hidden numbers though - like the 2nd die in Advantage and Disadvantage.
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