Orin unbeatable boss

[Matamor]

Hi, my main character is a barb and I don't have this missile spell with Gayle : how am I supposed to beat that boss!?? I tried two times and got toasted... The boss takes 1 damage per hit and he kills my whole party in 2 rounds... I would have liked to enjoy my story ending... I think I'm gonna take a break. Any tips, tricks to help me!?

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Originally posted by Night Foxx:

Sooooooo, keep beating on her. But, again, if you haven't beaten the game yet, playing in honor mode is just asking for trouble. And you're talking like the fighter's gonna be the only one beating on her.

Unless your whole party is fighters the drop off in attack actions for the rest of your party will be substantial, and if Orin even has 1 HP left after that round she gets all 12 stacks back and you don't have action surge to eat through them anymore.

Saying Fighter + Action Surge is the solution is a little silly.

MM or some goofy cheese strat are really the only options.

Well getting trough once means shes dead. She has like 200 hp. That's literally nothing.

[Sentient_Toaster]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Unless your whole party is fighters the drop off in attack actions for the rest of your party will be substantial, and if Orin even has 1 HP left after that round she gets all 12 stacks back and you don't have action surge to eat through them anymore.

Saying Fighter + Action Surge is the solution is a little silly.

MM or some goofy cheese strat are really the only options.

OP is on easy mode, so she only gets a much more manageable 7 stacks.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Originally posted by Phoenix:

As I have stated...multiple times...solutions exist. if you're creative enough to think of them, there is no boss in this game that is "unbeatable without x y z" if you think for 5 seconds you can win any of them with any build and any character setup

Sure, solutions exist.

So, if you're playing this game for the first time all you have to do is Youtube the fight before attempting it, see exactly how the fight goes, come up with a strategy that's entirely based on prior knowledge and hindsight, and EZPZ.

Or you can have 2 braincells and work with what the game gives you? i didn't need to youtube how to beat bosses i was stuck on the first time round because i looked at what they had and could do and what i had and could do....its not hard

You can literally right click characters to see what they're are packing and what they can do
you also can see you're fighting on a platform, it isn't rocket science to know you can knock people off ledges for insta kills, INCLUDING bosses. no mess. no fuss. simple. no need for fancy spells or anything. if you need youtube videos to figure out the mechanics by act 3 you're playing the wrong game.

This is but one of many solutions available for dealing with orin.

[Kaisha]

I'm pretty sure poisons strip off stacks too. Also I think in lower difficulties each type of damage strips a stack (perhaps that was patched though, I've only done her recently on Honor mode). So something like Nyrulna will strip 2 stacks per attack (more with more damage riders). Karlachs soul coin fire proc I think also consumes a stack.

There's also scroll of magic missiles and scroll of scorching ray. Also summons eat stacks pretty quickly.

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Matamor:

I'm on easy mode bro and I want to enjoy story...

Please please please take screenshots of your character sheet, upload them to an image hosting platform of your choice (or steam directly) and post them. You must be fundamentally misunderstanding how this game works, and because easy mode is so extraordinarily insanely easy, it never forced you to learn.
Let us fix your build.

[Giganx]

Originally posted by Phoenix:

Or you can have 2 braincells and work with what the game gives you? i didn't need to youtube how to beat bosses i was stuck on the first time round because i looked at what they had and could do and what i had and could do....its not hard

You can literally right click characters to see what their are packing and what they can do
you also can see you're fighting on a platform, it isn't rocket science to know you can knock people off ledges for insta kills, INCLUDING bosses. no mess. no fuss. simple. no need for fancy spells or anything. if you need youtube videos to figure out the mechanics by act 3 you're playing the wrong game.

This is but one of many solutions available for dealing with orin.

How exactly would you know all of this before the fact without youtubing it?

I love how your people use hindsight and pretend it's skill. Sure, if you know everything about the fights layout before starting it there's plenty of stuff you can do. Not everyone knows before the fact to have casters in their party with MM prepared, or on an item, or thunderwave prepared, or 100 fireworks, or whatever other goofy cheese you came up with based on knowing EXACTLY what happens in the fight.

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Originally posted by Phoenix:

Or you can have 2 braincells and work with what the game gives you? i didn't need to youtube how to beat bosses i was stuck on the first time round because i looked at what they had and could do and what i had and could do....its not hard

You can literally right click characters to see what their are packing and what they can do
you also can see you're fighting on a platform, it isn't rocket science to know you can knock people off ledges for insta kills, INCLUDING bosses. no mess. no fuss. simple. no need for fancy spells or anything. if you need youtube videos to figure out the mechanics by act 3 you're playing the wrong game.

This is but one of many solutions available for dealing with orin.

How exactly would you know all of this before the fact without youtubing it?

I love how your people use hindsight and pretend it's skill. Sure, if you know everything about the fights layout before starting it there's plenty of stuff you can do. Not everyone knows before the fact to have casters in their party with MM prepared, or on an item, or thunderwave prepared, or 100 fireworks, or whatever other goofy cheese you came up with based on knowing EXACTLY what happens in the fight.

Thats the neat part, you dont have to know whats ahead to build decent characters that can faceroll the entire campaign.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Originally posted by Phoenix:

Or you can have 2 braincells and work with what the game gives you? i didn't need to youtube how to beat bosses i was stuck on the first time round because i looked at what they had and could do and what i had and could do....its not hard

You can literally right click characters to see what their are packing and what they can do
you also can see you're fighting on a platform, it isn't rocket science to know you can knock people off ledges for insta kills, INCLUDING bosses. no mess. no fuss. simple. no need for fancy spells or anything. if you need youtube videos to figure out the mechanics by act 3 you're playing the wrong game.

This is but one of many solutions available for dealing with orin.

How exactly would you know all of this before the fact without youtubing it?

I love how your people use hindsight and pretend it's skill. Sure, if you know everything about the fights layout before starting it there's plenty of stuff you can do. Not everyone knows before the fact to have casters in their party with MM prepared, or on an item, or thunderwave prepared, or 100 fireworks, or whatever other goofy cheese you came up with based on knowing EXACTLY what happens in the fight.

The game is TURN BASED combat, you look around and analyze the arena? Are you dense?

fight starts, you have all the time in the world to look around while its your turn and think...there is no hindsight or pretend of skill. its simple logic and use of game mechanics. fight starts on an arena with a chasm, this is act 3, you no doubt have ledged people even by accident so you know its an insta kill, doesn't take a genius to figure out "huh...i can ledge people...orin is a person, what happens if i try to ledge her? its been an insta kill for everyone else...lets try"

Please tell me you legally are not allowed to operate machinery if this is a foreign concept to you

[Pat Fenis]

Sorcerous sundries has tons of scrolls for sale. If magic missile can't be bought you can respec gale (or anyone) into a wizard and pick magic missile as one of the spells on level up.

[Giganx]

Originally posted by Recjawjind:

Thats the neat part, you dont have to know whats ahead to build decent characters that can faceroll the entire campaign.

Yea maybe on the easier difficulties; I've never seen Orin on anything but Honor Mode so don't know what the fight looks like there.

But still, if you're playing on easy then you're probably playing whatever you want; not some faceroll party with all the correct multiclass dips. Maybe his party is a thief, a trickery cleric and 2 druids all specced randomly.

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Originally posted by Recjawjind:

Thats the neat part, you dont have to know whats ahead to build decent characters that can faceroll the entire campaign.

Yea maybe on the easier difficulties; I've never seen Orin on anything but Honor Mode so don't know what the fight looks like there.

But still, if you're playing on easy then you're probably playing whatever you want; not some faceroll party with all the correct multiclass dips. Maybe his party is a thief, a trickery cleric and 2 druids all specced randomly.

Ive rolled it on honour, though I knew what was ahead already from my tactician playtroughs before honour was released.
And even on those tactician playtroughs, with rather unoptimized builds, I never had to retry a fight after early act 1.

[Matamor]

Got her down to 29 hp but she started healing herself. I almost got her.

[Giganx]

Originally posted by Phoenix:

The game is TURN BASED combat, you look around and analyze the arena? Are you dense?

fight starts, you have all the time in the world to look around while its your turn and think...there is no hindsight or pretend of skill. its simple logic and use of game mechanics. fight starts on an arena with a chasm, this is act 3, you no doubt have ledged people even by accident so you know its an insta kill, doesn't take a genius to figure out "huh...i can ledge people...orin is a person, what happens if i try to ledge her? its been an insta kill for everyone else...lets try"

Please tell me you legally are not allowed to operate machinery if this is a foreign concept to you

After the fight start you CAN'T respec you party into whatever it is you need, or go buy the correct gear or prepare the correct spells. Once the fight starts you're stuck with the party and gear you have, and if they aren't equipped to deal with Orin's VERY specific criteria and situation they're screwed.

How do you not understand that all of your crap here is based on hindsight and knowing the fight? Are you this delusional?

[The Yeen Queen]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Originally posted by Night Foxx:

Sooooooo, keep beating on her. But, again, if you haven't beaten the game yet, playing in honor mode is just asking for trouble. And you're talking like the fighter's gonna be the only one beating on her.

Unless your whole party is fighters the drop off in attack actions for the rest of your party will be substantial, and if Orin even has 1 HP left after that round she gets all 12 stacks back and you don't have action surge to eat through them anymore.

Saying Fighter + Action Surge is the solution is a little silly.

Good thing that's not what I said. I said it was AN option. But you're going to need multiple tactics to deal with it, you can't just rely on one trick. The fact you haven't learned that by this point in Honor Mode is just mind boggling.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Originally posted by Recjawjind:

Thats the neat part, you dont have to know whats ahead to build decent characters that can faceroll the entire campaign.

Yea maybe on the easier difficulties; I've never seen Orin on anything but Honor Mode so don't know what the fight looks like there.

But still, if you're playing on easy then you're probably playing whatever you want; not some faceroll party with all the correct multiclass dips. Maybe his party is a thief, a trickery cleric and 2 druids all specced randomly.

all of which have options to deal with orin.

I completed honour mode as a bard with default shadowheart/karlach and gale, didn't hyper specialize. it was difficult sure, i could have made various things much easier but you seem to want to make things difficult for yourself and trying brute force methods when the game is a playground for creativity, there are MANY people who use what the game gives you to great effect, no need for specific things or full indepth guides, just a though and a little creativity