is bard good to pick?

[Jon Eros]

is bard a good option to pick?

(becouse you can get the instrument proficientcy of a quest)

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by Jon Eros:

is bard a good option to pick?

(becouse you can get the instrument proficientcy of a quest)

The short answer to your question is yes. If you decide to play a Bard, you won't regret it.

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The long answer to your question is Bard is an INSANELY good class to play, for more than just instrument proficiency.

1) It's a CHA-based class. This makes building a face easier since you key off the same ability for Persuasion that you would for your spells and abilities. The one exception to this would be if you decide to go Swords Bard since they love their DEX, but even then you can get a 16 CHA easy and that tends to be sufficient for spellcasting.

2) Bards have incredible support utility, with innate access to Longstrider, Hideous Laughter, Healing Word, Speak with Animals, etc. Bardic Inspiration is also really good as a buff or debuff tool (free d8s on a SR cooldown is just smexy), and getting your (admitedly nerfed to fuq) Magical Secrets lets you really tailor your spell list to exactly what you need.

3) Bards can be tailored to work for any of the most popular Honor builds like Radiant Orb, Dual Hand Crossbows, GOO-Reverb, Life Shepherd, Magic Missile Spam, etc. They get access to most of the proficiencies you'll need to equip the gear needed for these builds, and don't take much at all for dipping to get online for the abilities needed. ROG 3 / RNG 3 / BRD 6 with Thief, Gloom Stalker, and Swords is a powerhouse of a DPS, meanwhile a CLC 1 / BRD 11 with Life and Lore is powerful enough to keep most parties alive and healthy.

[Brady4444]

I can't forget 2E bard, which was a terrible 'meme' class. For people without my handicap, it looks like bard is an excellent support/utility caster with both melee and caster options available.

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by Brady4444:

I can't forget 2E bard, which was a terrible 'meme' class. For people without my handicap, it looks like bard is an excellent support/utility caster with both melee and caster options available.

Yeah in 5e tabletop they made the bard (specifically lore bard) the hands down best single class in the game. quite a change since the advanced dungeons and dragons days.

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Originally posted by Brady4444:

I can't forget 2E bard, which was a terrible 'meme' class. For people without my handicap, it looks like bard is an excellent support/utility caster with both melee and caster options available.

Yeah in 5e tabletop they made the bard (specifically lore bard) the hands down best single class in the game. quite a change since the advanced dungeons and dragons days.

5e Bard in general is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane. Swords Bards make great gishes, Lore Bards are incredible casters, Eloquence Bards are nasty controllers, SR d8s or d10s for any attack roll, ability check, or saving throw on a BA gives great utility, literally the only thing they can't do exceedingly well (note the qualifier here) is frontline, but if you play to form you should never have to worry about that to begin with.

[seeker1]

Dunno, ever since I played the original Bard's Tale ... (and the 2004 ? remake was meh) ... what can I tell you.

I have a dragonborn bard named El Vis. A Lore bard with some Swords bard skills, because, mods. I've been looking for other subclasses at Nexus, Glamour College is interesting (but redundant), College of Spirits rocks (but I hate the randomness factor for the Tales from Beyond you get), and I think I like College of Creation as you can summon a singing/dancing sword to fight for you.

Lore bard can take just about any spell in the game with Magical Secrets. This only gets better with Unlock Level Curve, where you can take that more than once, and IMHO the "in-built" spell list for Bards is much better with the 5E Spells Addon mod. Not that it's slouchy even in vanilla. Most of your damaging spells are thunder/sonic based; 5E spells adds some from the psychic category (essentially, damaging the mind and heart of opponents).

Also, there are some nice mods to add magical musical instruments for bards, something the vanilla game should have, but anyway - they're there.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Bard is the Chad class.