mods and achievements

[Ron]

if i put a few mods on it will i still get achievements? ty ty ;-d

[Phoenix]

No. and yes, funny enough there is a mod that enables achievements with mods available on nexus

[Ron]

Originally posted by Phoenix:

No. and yes, funny enough there is a mod that enables achievements with mods available on nexus

ty ty ;-d

[VulcanTourist]

*sigh* Once again, just enough help to be dangerous. DO NOT use the most obviously titled mod that you'll find. Use this one[www.nexusmods.com], both the base mod (which you will need for many other mods anyway) AND the first Optional file or the second, if you also want a console.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by Ron:

if i put a few mods on it will i still get achievements? ty ty ;-d

No.
Why should you?
'Depending' on the Mod, you are basically cheating.
If you are using mods for clothing or dress, why not. No harm no foul.
If you are using them for combat superiority, no, you should get nothing.

[VulcanTourist]

Originally posted by War Maiden:

No.
Why should you?
'Depending' on the Mod, you are basically cheating.

Oh look, the Puritans have arrived. Can't have fun or be entertained, MUST be challenged and play the game exactly as the Developer Priests have ordained....

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by VulcanTourist:

Originally posted by War Maiden:

No.
Why should you?
'Depending' on the Mod, you are basically cheating.

Oh look, the Puritans have arrived. Can't have fun or be entertained, MUST be challenged and play the game exactly as the Developer Priests have ordained....

Funny you call me a 'Puritan' yet you are the one that wants to cheat.
"Can't have fun or be entertained" Guess what, the challenge is the fun.
You, apparently, are too weak to engage it without mods.

Oh, and just so you know, I been here since EA started.
Play solo and duo with my selected romance partner.
I don't need mods to win, unlike some it seems.
Tactical analysis and capabilities failing you much?

[VulcanTourist]

Originally posted by War Maiden:

Originally posted by VulcanTourist:

Oh look, the Puritans have arrived. Can't have fun or be entertained, MUST be challenged and play the game exactly as the Developer Priests have ordained....

Funny you call me a 'Puritan' yet you are the one that wants to cheat.

Stop telling other people how they must experience the game. You're not even part of the design team, and even they have no business preaching a game Gospel. As the derisive laissez-faire cliche says, "you do you" and leave everyone else to do themselves unless they start digging in your yard. Here you are, sailing an ocean to leap into someone else's and try to dictate what flowers they can plant. Such a flawed theory of mind should be a source of embarrassment, not pride.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by VulcanTourist:

Originally posted by War Maiden:

Funny you call me a 'Puritan' yet you are the one that wants to cheat.

Stop telling other people how they must experience the game. You're not even part of the design team, and even they have no business preaching a game Gospel. As the derisive laissez-faire cliche says, "you do you" and leave everyone else to do themselves unless they start digging in your yard. Here you are, sailing an ocean to leap into someone else's and try to dictate what flowers they can plant. Such a flawed theory of mind should be a source of embarrassment, not pride.

Well, good Sir or Ma'am,
If you do not want people to criticize your comments, how about you think before you comment on a post?

You are the one whom started this, calling ME names, which I could have reported you for, but didn't. How about you just let it go...

However, it seems you want to debate. Oh, please 'dig in my yard' you will find I do not cheat, been here since EA began, reported a slew of bugs, AND solo and duo this game, from the onset in EA and even now. So go on, lets debate if you want.

[Jon Eros]

i think its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. mods dont make you "cheat"

i dont have game mods, but i do actualy cheat. and i do get achievements

(i use wemod for important diceroles, so i get always a d20) (not on multiplayer of course)

[Phoenix]

I have mods and they aren't cheating. of course, if you have mods that just give yourself infinite health or actions points etc, sure its "cheating" but its an sp game. who cares?
I have different race mods.

[seeker1]

The bottom line is, Larian could peer into the code of all your mods, and check if the only ones you have are cosmetic, QoL, dice skins, etc. and not gameplay or cheats. It's too much work. So they take the simplest route. All mods disable achievements. I'm sure they're aware there's another mod that can disable THAT and give achievements back. They don't go to extreme effort to prevent it, either.

And yeah, there's zero detection for if you are using WEMOD or Cheat Engine or external trainers to cheat ... those won't block achievements (as was just said).

At Nexus, there are mods called "cheats". Period. That's what they are. And they are. You can give yourself 20,000 gold. You can go into god mode and be indestructible. Hell, you can add enough XP to be level 20 off the Nautiloid. And make sure you can't ever fail a skill check. Yeah, that's all there. And some more minor ones, like, giving yourself a feat at every level instead of 4, etc., etc.

Now the "gameplay" mods .... well, no doubt about it, most make the game easier, some ARE focused on making it harder ... there's only a few of those.

MHO: you can't REALLY cheat in a single player game. Only in competitive games and MMOs. This is why MMOs with PvP ban you for using them. MHO2: it's your game, play it the way you like.

[seeker1]

Originally posted by VulcanTourist:

*sigh* Once again, just enough help to be dangerous. DO NOT use the most obviously titled mod that you'll find. Use this one[www.nexusmods.com], both the base mod (which you will need for many other mods anyway) AND the first Optional file or the second, if you also want a console.

Huh. I have never used Achievement Enabler because I don't care about achievements.

That said, just looking at it just now, a) it requires NativeModLoader b) a lot of the documentation isn't in English and c) it has a worrisomely long page of Bug Reports.

I can't use Script Extender, and I didn't even know the Nexus hosted one included an addon file for achievement enabling, but I did know SE could also do this. But yeah, def. looks like you should use that.

[VulcanTourist]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Originally posted by VulcanTourist:

*sigh* Once again, just enough help to be dangerous. DO NOT use the most obviously titled mod that you'll find. Use this one[www.nexusmods.com], both the base mod (which you will need for many other mods anyway) AND the first Optional file or the second, if you also want a console.

Huh. I have never used Achievement Enabler because I don't care about achievements.

That said, just looking at it just now, a) it requires NativeModLoader b) a lot of the documentation isn't in English and c) it has a worrisomely long page of Bug Reports.

I can't use Script Extender, and I didn't even know the Nexus hosted one included an addon file for achievement enabling, but I did know SE could also do this. But yeah, def. looks like you should use that.

Can't use Script Extender? Why is that?

Yes, the Script Extender addons are somewhat hidden and certainly not telegraphed in the title, so people have to be deliberative or lucky to make that discovery. Both that and the console are just small DLL mods themselves and anyone could have coded them, but perhaps it makes sense that the fellow who created the injector would also recognize the need for those.

Script Extender and NativeModLoader perform essentially the same function, as DLL code injectors comparable to SKSE for Skyrim and BepInEx for Unity games, but I gather that SE is simply more refined than NML and perhaps has a better API etc. It's been adopted more widely by the people who want to make mods, so I guess that's a value judgement.

[seeker1]

Originally posted by VulcanTourist:

Can't use Script Extender? Why is that?

Only works on Windows, my friend. Some Mac user said they would pay Norbyte $200 to port it to Mac. He said it was too much work. So, either people keep upping the offers ...

Or Larian unlocks enough of the game so that SE isn't necessary any more. Hope springs eternal. There are so many things I could be doing mod-wise with it if I could use it (and it also solves so many problems/issues). That said, there are plenty of mods that still work just fine without it, too.

[VulcanTourist]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Originally posted by VulcanTourist:

Can't use Script Extender? Why is that?

Only works on Windows, my friend.

I couldn't have known! Sorry that Wine and its variants can't handle it yet.