Are there enough potions/mats to re-spec and gain back a feat?

[ahsanford]

Zany idea: are there enough potions (or mats) to drink a Potion of Peerless Focus every day in this playthrough?

I ask because my main needs concentration -- L1 life cleric / L6 Bard. It's a buff / debuff / heal role so Bless (+ Mystra's Blessing), Spirit Guardians or Hypnotic Pattern is often up and running. So I picked up Warcaster at L5 (L4 Bard).

I'm just getting going in Act II and if I had enough of that potion, I could re-spec get a feat back by un-taking Warcaster and choosing something else (ASI likely but maybe something else).

Thoughts -- bad idea? Would it be unsustainable?

- A

[LordOfTheBread]

Theres a NPC ion camp offering respec for gold.

[Pat Fenis]

There are a number of items that give advantage to constitution saves, which concentration is.

[Phoenix]

i'm confused by your question. you can respec and change your feats whenever? its only 100g

you seem to be asking 2 questions, 1 about respec and 1 about ingredients for a potion, could you reword?

[Pat Fenis]

he wants to always have concentration roll advantage without picking warcaster

[ahsanford]

Sorry for not being clear. Yes, I get the re-spec mechanics -- many playthroughs here.

And items for concentration won't cut it. I'm not going to waste an item slot for that -- I have many +heal / if you heal, X good thing happens sorts of items that I don't want to unequip.

I'm just asking if there are enough mats or found potions to keep that concentraion up throughout the game. Can I 'buy' advantage every day throughout the rest of my playthrough with a potion instead of an item or feat?

- A

[Pat Fenis]

Not sustainable without wasting a lot of time save scumming. You would have to make sure alchemy vendors have enough belladonna every long rest so if you don't want to invest all that time, then no.

Just going to add that any magic items to affect healing you found in act 1 are probably crap anyhow. If you kill or paralyse enemies it's like you healed 100% of the damage they would have done. Most gear that gives con save advantage is armor, the highest ac medium armor in act 2 give con advantage. Dark justiciar half plate.

[Phoenix]

the elixir you mentioned requires belladonna and any ashes, belladonna can be bought in the underdark, if its anything like usual traders you can restock them by resting so unlimited belladonna if you have the gold, as for ashes the vendor also sells balsam which can be made into ashes. so you have a vendor for unlimited peerless focus

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Pat Fenis:

Not sustainable without wasting a lot of time save scumming. You would have to make sure alchemy vendors have enough belladonna every long rest so if you don't want to invest all that time, then no.

not really save scumming. its just long rest scumming? if thats even a concept lol

[ahsanford]

Originally posted by Pat Fenis:

Not sustainable without wasting a lot of time save scumming. You would have to make sure alchemy vendors have enough belladonna every long rest so if you don't want to invest all that time, then no.

Or I could re-spec again when I run out of potions/mats... or if I find a truly great CON advantage item that works well with my chosen role.

Re-spec'ing. I'll try it. I've got 5-6 of those elixirs now, which for a bard = 20-24 battles due to 3 short rests per day. We'll see how it goes.

Thx all.

- A

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by ahsanford:

Originally posted by Pat Fenis:

Not sustainable without wasting a lot of time save scumming. You would have to make sure alchemy vendors have enough belladonna every long rest so if you don't want to invest all that time, then no.

Or I could re-spec again when I run out of potions/mats... or if I find a truly great CON advantage item that works well with my chosen role.

Re-spec'ing. I'll try it. I've got 5-6 of those elixirs now, which for a bard = 20-24 battles due to 3 short rests per day. We'll see how it goes.

Thx all.

- A

Again. you could get unlimited of the elixir if you long rest. so running out isn't really an option, its just if you have the gold to buy them all

[Sentient_Toaster]

Eventually you can get an amulet which not only raises your CON to 23 (unless it has already somehow that high) but also gives you advantage on all constitution saves.

Theeeeoretically you shouldn't be taking long rest after long rest just to reroll merchant restocking even if you have vast amounts of camp supplies, because of.. well, everything from an army marching towards Baldur's Gate and that your Guardian isn't protecting the whole region from an eventual TRANSFORM order, but... relatively few goals can be failed by resting too long, and all of them require you to first encounter or otherwise trigger something I believe rather than there being an "on <X> day of your adventure this will happen if not yet stopped" etc.

[northernwater]

While gaining adv on concentration throws is a great way to maintain concentration there are many ways to bias the throw. Any thing you can do to bias saving throws and/or CON saving throws. So be creative.

Also, minimizing damage for your caster is a great way. Any damage will cause a saving throw, but any damage over 20 will increase the DC above 10 (the minimum). So Sanctuary is useful here or hiding or resistances.

If you want to maintain concentration don't use Warding Bond. Your caster will receive extra throws after taking damage through the Bond.

[northernwater]

In the Nere fight I had shart using Peerless Focus and she held concentration on Bless sitting in the Lava. Pretty funny. She took about 68 damaged over two rounds before I got her out.

[AvG]

If you don't want to gain class advantage which would be for example, starting with sorcerer 1 level then rest whatever class you want (sorcerer gets con advantage), then a few things I thought of was the use of the recruits for once per rest buffs, you can spec them after 3+ and give your character the bonuses per long rest. Secondly you can spec con advantage as a feat later if you don't have it. Third you can wear gear that gives you immunity to the things that give you concentration disadvantage like immunity to prone.

I suppose instead of all that effort for con bonus, you could just pump up your stealth, or use invisibility, they can't attack then unless they have see invisible or if you have good positioning you can hide and they can't break your concentration.

[Pat Fenis]

Proficiency is not advantage. One is a + to roll the other is best of 2 rolls.

That said, they stack. Resilient: con for proficiency and a source of advantage is the way to go for "unbreakable" concentration.