True Strike

[Aevoug]

is it possible to change true strike in to a bonus action? it feels like its bad being action

[Recjawjind]

Yeah true strike has always, and will always be utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
You can metamagic quicken cast it, but that's just a complete waste. I'd just disregard its existence.

[Ironwu]

I don't even have it on my bars as it is so bad I don't even want to look at it.

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Ironwu:

I don't even have it on my bars as it is so bad I don't even want to look at it.

Why even pick the spell in the first place.

[Orion Invictus]

Did Larian change the way it works for BG3 or something? Because I find it difficult to believe something like this was approved by the people who made 5e. It's literally worse than simply attacking, unless your class benefits from attacking with advantage.

[Boss]

In 5e, it's carefully been designed by consulting the world's leading game designers to be the most useless spell possible. It's only slightly better in BG3.

Quickened spell works, and Level 7 Elderitch Knight can attack as a bonus action after casting it. Haste gives you an extra action (Except on Honor) to use, and so does killing a creature with Elixir of Bloodlust.

Still, all of this is a complete and utter waste

[Ironwu]

Originally posted by Recjawjind:

Originally posted by Ironwu:

I don't even have it on my bars as it is so bad I don't even want to look at it.

Why even pick the spell in the first place.

You have no choice, really.

[Hobocop]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Did Larian change the way it works for BG3 or something? Because I find it difficult to believe something like this was approved by the people who made 5e. It's literally worse than simply attacking, unless your class benefits from attacking with advantage.

Nope, it's just as bad on TT. It's not even good on gish/spellsword characters because those often get Extra Attack so you can just attack twice instead.

A complete waste of time on Rogues as well because you can just Hide, or on TT since Tasha's, you can forgo your movement for the turn using Cunning Action: Aim to get advantage on your next attack roll.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Hobocop:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Did Larian change the way it works for BG3 or something? Because I find it difficult to believe something like this was approved by the people who made 5e. It's literally worse than simply attacking, unless your class benefits from attacking with advantage.

Nope, it's just as bad on TT. It's not even good on gish/spellsword characters because those often get Extra Attack so you can just attack twice instead.

A complete waste of time on Rogues as well because you can just Hide, or on TT since Tasha's, you can forgo your movement for the turn using Cunning Action: Aim to get advantage on your next attack roll.

I am just baffled that they didn't have a single math guy say "Hey, you guys know this is objectively worse than just attacking twice, right?"

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Hobocop:

Nope, it's just as bad on TT. It's not even good on gish/spellsword characters because those often get Extra Attack so you can just attack twice instead.

A complete waste of time on Rogues as well because you can just Hide, or on TT since Tasha's, you can forgo your movement for the turn using Cunning Action: Aim to get advantage on your next attack roll.

I am just baffled that they didn't have a single math guy say "Hey, you guys know this is objectively worse than just attacking twice, right?"

Hey it's a REALLY good spell (for the enemy), it's like you're CC-ing yourself! Can't swing the action economy harder in the enemies favor with a cantrip.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Recjawjind:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

I am just baffled that they didn't have a single math guy say "Hey, you guys know this is objectively worse than just attacking twice, right?"

Hey it's a REALLY good spell (for the enemy), it's like you're CC-ing yourself! Can't swing the action economy harder in the enemies favor with a cantrip.

There are many easy ways to fix it too:
1 - Bonus action.
2 - Give advantage on your next two attacks.
3 - Give advantage on all attacks against the enemy until the end of the round (might be too strong).
4 - Give advantage on the next attack against the enemy, regardless of the source (like a weaker version of Guiding Bolt).

These are just off the top of my head, so they might not be perfect.

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

There are many easy ways to fix it too:
1 - Bonus action.

That works, since its concentration its still very competitive with a lot of other spells tho.

2 - Give advantage on your next two attacks.

I'd prefer if it just gave adv on all of your attacks for its duration (i.e until the end of your next turn)

3 - Give advantage on all attacks against the enemy until the end of the round (might be too strong).

Nah that's way too much

4 - Give advantage on the next attack against the enemy, regardless of the source (like a weaker version of Guiding Bolt).

Reasonable, though still wouldn't be good as a concentration action. Levelled spells still outcompete it in every metric then.

[Sentient_Toaster]

BG3 actually buffed it in a non-trivial way. It's worse in the original ruleset.

In the original rules, it grants advantage on your first attack roll against that target... on your next turn, so it won't help you on the turn you cast it even if you use Quickened Spell metamagic or if you're an Eldritch Knight who casts it and then makes an attack with a bonus action.

In BG3, the "next turn" restriction goes away so you *can* benefit from it in the same turn you cast it.

It's basically only really useful in niche cases. Maybe you can't do the same attack twice because you've throwing a single-use or otherwise non-returning weapon, maybe you're planning to burn your last spell slot on an upcast Inflict Wounds, maybe you're an Arcane Trickster who is under disadvantage and needs to negate that in order to land a sneak attack.

[jrf773]

https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/582
Makes it a bonus action

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by SomeDudeNamedJohn:

https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/582
Makes it a bonus action

Nexus to the rescue with the best mods.

[Kamuizin]

Eldritch knight War Magic is pratically the only point where true strike would be able to shine, but... you cast TS with action and attack with bonus action, and this doesn't trigger extra attack afaik, thus crippling the EK class idea entirely.

It's very stupid, but the guilt is in 5e, not BG3 (still, they could make a homebrew rule for the game, just switch the order, attack + cantrip or make using a cantrip with bonus action reset action use, which could lead to absurd combos).