Another Shadowheart's "Spear of Night" issue.

[Stryker's Gaming]

I have the SoN, obtained it after completing the trials and getting into the hidden room. Went down to face the Nightsong and couldn't go because "Shar told her she needed the spear." It was strapped to her back! However, it wasn't in the log. This is my 5th time through Act 2, this has never happened to me before.

So I loaded from after the first trial, went to the travel object, interacted with it, has 2 cutscene, the last one Shadowheart told her she had to have the spear. Completed the remaining trials using Shadowheart. I had Shadowheart obtain the weapon from the vault. She identified it as the SoN. It is in the logs for needing and receiving.

I went back to the elevator using Shadowheart placing all the orbs. Got to the entrance and...'must have the Spear of Night.' After nearly 2-hours of playing in this area, I just quit the game out of frustration.

I have no clue nor idea how to get into the Shadowfel to save Nightsong. There's nothing for me to obtain, I have it, it's in the log.

[Nox]

If you want to save the Nightsong, you dont need the spear.

[LaFleur Gamebox]

It's a known issue since Hotfix 16.

[Stryker's Gaming]

Originally posted by BananaChumpus:

If you want to save the Nightsong, you dont need the spear.

I cannot get into the area to save nightsong because it tells me I don't have the 'Spear of Night' when I do. The log show the quest to find and obtain, both fulfilled.

[Stryker's Gaming]

Originally posted by LaFleur Gamebox:

It's a known issue since Hotfix 16.

Argh. No telling when it will get fixed. Thank you LaFleur.

[Hellsteeth30]

Yep, they broke the game again.

Cross-platform too.

[Migo]

I hope they can fix this ASAP

[seeker1]

Hotfix 16 -- two mods are main villains.
BG3 Mod Fixer
Party limit begone -- legacy version.

Disable them. MAN, I wish this topic could get STICKIED. I hate retyping this.

[Lani]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Hotfix 16 -- two mods are main villains.
BG3 Mod Fixer
Party limit begone -- legacy version.

Disable them. MAN, I wish this topic could get STICKIED. I hate retyping this.

The problem is, while people will accept an issue occurring on the day of- or day after an update, that's about as long as the average player memory lasts when it comes to mods not being forward compatible with updates.
If it doesn't crash the game in first 48 hours then it can't be an issue.
And then you run into an issue because you've finally progressed to where the mod now borks something.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Lani:

Originally posted by seeker1:

Hotfix 16 -- two mods are main villains.
BG3 Mod Fixer
Party limit begone -- legacy version.

Disable them. MAN, I wish this topic could get STICKIED. I hate retyping this.

The problem is, while people will accept an issue occurring on the day of- or day after an update, that's about as long as the average player memory lasts when it comes to mods not being forward compatible with updates.
If it doesn't crash the game in first 48 hours then it can't be an issue.
And then you run into an issue because you've finally progressed to where the mod now borks something.

I am lacking words to describe the feelings I have for that.

[seeker1]

So, as a general rule of thumb, mods can be fine and no problem until an update, and then they start causing issues or fail. Yah.

Thing is, this issue is widespread. It affects ALL quest items. So we have like a dozen threads about quest items not being seen. Reality is, this is affecting almost all of them. Those needed to open doors, turn in for quests, hell start the endgame.

As I say, this is why I wish this would get sticked.

Anyway, I think BG3 Mod "Fixer" needs to die. If you have Script Extender, it really should. There's nothing it "fixes" anymore and it just creates problems.

As for the Legacy version for PLB - well, look, if you CAN you SHOULD use the Script Extender based version 2.0. I can't - I would if I could - but I can't because Norbyte won't port Script Extender to Macs. (Granted, could be a LOT of work.) But anyway, the author keeps the Legacy version around, nice because it's all Mac and maybe some Linux users can use, and will probably update it soon for Hotfix 16 compatibility.

I am also wondering if mods that affect inventory like bags bags bags etc. may also not be playing well with Hotfix 16. Unsure.

[SoLoLess]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Hotfix 16 -- two mods are main villains.
BG3 Mod Fixer
Party limit begone -- legacy version.

Disable them. MAN, I wish this topic could get STICKIED. I hate retyping this.

THANK YOU!!! I Tried so many "solutions" for hours. 24hr into this playthough and didn't want to scrap it. I just deleted both mods. This is the one that fixed it for me. I've forgot I had party limiter installed... I only keep 3 members with me regardless.

[Dr.Abscondus]

Dame Aylin gave Shadowheart the Light version of the spear, but it's not in her inventory. This was after patch 16 and I don't have any mods. Something is wrong.

[seeker1]

Yeah, check closer. Because, in fact, as I've found, though Dame says she's giving the spear to Shadowheart, in fact, it pops up in Tav's inventory first. Tav THEN has to hand it to Shadowheart.

[WillowRayne17]

So I've did all the trials and everything.. maybe I picked up the spear? But I did it at least two weeks ago I think, so I don't remember, and I can't find it anywhere in the library.. can't get into shadowfell bc she says I still need it... are people still having this issue? Should I just save and wait for a patch? 🤦‍♀️

[Estevan Valladares]

You cannot enter the Shadowfell without the spear. If you try, Shadowheart even fight you because of that.
"Known issue". Right. Known issue for players it is like feedback fix for devs. When devs say they fixed something because you complained about it, odds are they probably already had it on track before anyone complained about it, and waited until someone did to fix it. Much like contractors will make a building lacking things, and only "waste the money" if someone asks for it. Next time you see someone buying a newly constructed apartment, check it out. Long before games did it, it was an ancient Real Estate trick.

The issue is more like lazy coding. But if you get the spear, misplace the spear (non party inventory, chest, sold, dropped, equipped by another character), SH wont do it, even if you DID FIND IT.

If she is the one holding the spear, it always work. And that seems pretty logic. How she will do her thing (regardless of the choice, she must hold the spear, either to kill the nightsong, or to throw it in the chasm for the NS to turn it into the "Sunspear") if she is not the one holding the s ... spear ?

I have no doubt TikTok trained attention wont always know where the spear is, and wont admit Panda attention span.