Goblins attack after sleeping with Minthara

[Chappell Roan]

Hello, is it normal that the goblin camp is attacking my party after I destroyed the Grove, killed all the Tieflings, and slept with Minthara ? I don't understand why they would attack me.

Thanks

[Marlowe-33]

thx 4 teh spoiler bro , i was saving myself for the full game.

[2]

Larian needs to let the player bang a female goblin, these green chicks are gonna make me act up

[Martin]

Escrito originalmente por Mylène Farmer:

Hello, is it normal that the goblin camp is attacking my party after I destroyed the Grove, killed all the Tieflings, and slept with Minthara ? I don't understand why they would attack me.

Thanks

Yeh she betrays you.

[Chappell Roan]

Escrito originalmente por GrandMajora:

Escrito originalmente por Mylène Farmer:

Hello, is it normal that the goblin camp is attacking my party after I destroyed the Grove, killed all the Tieflings, and slept with Minthara ? I don't understand why they would attack me.

Thanks

Yes, it is. Minthara was planning to betray you the entire time. You were never supposed to come back alive from the raid / celebration afterward, so the goblins were instructed to treat you like an enemy if you try to go back to their camp.

How do you know that ? It makes sense but do we have any proof that this was what was planned ?

[Mr Pibbleton]

Escrito originalmente por Edstyles:

Why you care about a pack of goblins Just kill them all.
Goblin slayer approves

I've never killed Gribbo or that one Goblin that only says "Tribe!"

[Lord Adorable]

She explicitly tells you to not return to the Goblin Camp once the party was over.

[Haven]

Escrito originalmente por Marlowe33:

thx 4 teh spoiler bro , i was saving myself for the full game.

troll? If you're reading the forum then you're opting in to spoilers.

[Lord Adorable]

Escrito originalmente por Marlowe33:

thx 4 teh spoiler bro , i was saving myself for the full game.

That's a you problem chief.

[Haven]

I did not see a specific warning about not returning to the goblin camp during my playthrough. Raided the grove (or rather, did as the quest text dictated and ended up at the grove with the place already sacked apparently?), opted for Lae'zel (before you judge, I'm playing as a gith oathbreaker for my evil playthrough) and then after talking her out of rolling credits went to sell my loot from my terribly overburdened party only to get aggroed right away upon warping to the goblin camp.

[War Maiden]

Escrito originalmente por Haven923:

I did not see a specific warning about not returning to the goblin camp during my playthrough. Raided the grove (or rather, did as the quest text dictated and ended up at the grove with the place already sacked apparently?), opted for Lae'zel (before you judge, I'm playing as a gith oathbreaker for my evil playthrough) and then after talking her out of rolling credits went to sell my loot from my terribly overburdened party only to get aggroed right away upon warping to the goblin camp.

No, there is nothing in the quest log to tell you that going to the goblin camp will have them agro you. Why is it not in the quest log, because you, like the OP, completely were not paying attention to what Minthara was telling you after you bedded her.

She explicitly tells you DO. NOT. GO. TO. THE. GOBLIN. CAMP. THEY. THINK. I. KILLED. YOU. AND. WILL. ATTACK. YOU. ON. SIGHT.

I seriously do not know how much more simple I can make it. I get that plenty of you probably were waxing your salami to the scene, and in the afterglow, completely lost focus on what the female was telling you. Sadly, that female was trying to protect you, and you two f'd it away. Good job.

[Haven]

Escrito originalmente por War Maiden:

Escrito originalmente por Haven923:

I did not see a specific warning about not returning to the goblin camp during my playthrough. Raided the grove (or rather, did as the quest text dictated and ended up at the grove with the place already sacked apparently?), opted for Lae'zel (before you judge, I'm playing as a gith oathbreaker for my evil playthrough) and then after talking her out of rolling credits went to sell my loot from my terribly overburdened party only to get aggroed right away upon warping to the goblin camp.

No, there is nothing in the quest log to tell you that going to the goblin camp will have them agro you. Why is it not in the quest log, because you, like the OP, completely were not paying attention to what Minthara was telling you after you bedded her.

She explicitly tells you DO. NOT. GO. TO. THE. GOBLIN. CAMP. THEY. THINK. I. KILLED. YOU. AND. WILL. ATTACK. YOU. ON. SIGHT.

I seriously do not know how much more simple I can make it. I get that plenty of you probably were waxing your salami to the scene, and in the afterglow, completely lost focus on what the female was telling you. Sadly, that female was trying to protect you, and you two f'd it away. Good job.

You've got a way with words, don't you?

Anyway, I loaded a save and confirmed that she does in fact warn you.

In the last line.

Of the last dialogue.

Before you get thrust back to the grove.

Where it's easily missed.

So drop the attitude, this does qualify as a player experience bug. The warning should be more forward in the conversation and harder to miss. Maybe a pop-up after the rest warning you that your faction standing changed? As-is, it is easy to accidentally skip even with speed-reading the subtitles, which leads to—as is evidenced by the existence of this thread—players getting aggroed by factions they worked hard to befriend without knowing why.

[Lord Adorable]

Escrito originalmente por Haven923:

Escrito originalmente por War Maiden:

No, there is nothing in the quest log to tell you that going to the goblin camp will have them agro you. Why is it not in the quest log, because you, like the OP, completely were not paying attention to what Minthara was telling you after you bedded her.

She explicitly tells you DO. NOT. GO. TO. THE. GOBLIN. CAMP. THEY. THINK. I. KILLED. YOU. AND. WILL. ATTACK. YOU. ON. SIGHT.

I seriously do not know how much more simple I can make it. I get that plenty of you probably were waxing your salami to the scene, and in the afterglow, completely lost focus on what the female was telling you. Sadly, that female was trying to protect you, and you two f'd it away. Good job.

You've got a way with words, don't you?

Anyway, I loaded a save and confirmed that she does in fact warn you.

In the last line.

Of the last dialogue.

Before you get thrust back to the grove.

Where it's easily missed.

So drop the attitude, this does qualify as a player experience bug. The warning should be more forward in the conversation and harder to miss. Maybe a pop-up after the rest warning you that your faction standing changed? As-is, it is easy to accidentally skip even with speed-reading the subtitles, which leads to—as is evidenced by the existence of this thread—players getting aggroed by factions they worked hard to befriend without knowing why.

Or people can learn to pay attention to what is being said in a roleplaying game instead of being babied and held by the hand.

[War Maiden]

Escrito originalmente por Lord Adorable:

Escrito originalmente por Haven923:

You've got a way with words, don't you?

Anyway, I loaded a save and confirmed that she does in fact warn you.

In the last line.

Of the last dialogue.

Before you get thrust back to the grove.

Where it's easily missed.

So drop the attitude, this does qualify as a player experience bug. The warning should be more forward in the conversation and harder to miss. Maybe a pop-up after the rest warning you that your faction standing changed? As-is, it is easy to accidentally skip even with speed-reading the subtitles, which leads to—as is evidenced by the existence of this thread—players getting aggroed by factions they worked hard to befriend without knowing why.

Or people can learn to pay attention to what is being said in a roleplaying game instead of being babied and held by the hand.

Thank you.

[Fortie]

Next time do not skip dialogues ! :D

[Haven]

Escrito originalmente por Lord Adorable:

Or people can learn to pay attention to what is being said in a roleplaying game instead of being babied and held by the hand.

Improving visibility on important information isn't babying, it's good design. Narrative and UX designers know that if players miss important information then the onus for that falls on them. It's one of the hard truths of the field and a constantly moving target. If just a handful of people in early access encountered this and felt need to comment on this forum as if it were a bug then you can multiply that result by a significant amount for the number of players who encountered it and didn't comment, and then multiply it again for the number that would encounter it in the full release.

It's not "wrong", but it can be greatly improved. That's the difference between workable and great. It's only natural in a game of this scope to have places where information is missed, but it's our duty to try to point out those areas so they can be considered and possibly adjusted. You may not have found it troublesome, but others did. Your dismissing of valid concerns and complaints is unwarranted.