My paladin broke her oath by killing goblins?

[wylkyn]

I was fighting the Hobgoblin leader in the goblin camp, and all his gobbo friends, and then when the combat ended, it said that my paladin broke her oath. How? I have no idea what she did other than fight evil goblins. It seems that without any feedback on what your paladin is doing wrong, everyone will eventually become an oathbreaker. How does the system work? I've tried to make her make the right choices in conversation and so forth, though I've avoided the Paladin conversation lines that would just outright start a battle. Is that what the problem is? I sincerely hope this isn't the only choice for paladin characters, because that would suck. It's like 2nd edition all over again.

[Voltage1001]

I assume you were an Oath of Devotion Paladin. They're all about Honour and Valour so evil or otherwise if you attacked without instigation (Dialogue) or break a promise (Saying they're free to go and then attacking them) it's considered dishonourable as if you were backstabbing them so your Oath was shattered because of that.

Unfortunately while it isn't fully clear as the descriptions aren't great in game, Your Oath isn't about being Good or Evil but it's about Honesty and Valour. You can be a piece of ♥♥♥♥ as an Oath of Devotion Paladin but if you show honour and are honest about your intentions whether to a good creature or evil creature you'll keep your oath.

[Edstyles]

Paladins here are different . Paladins would see any evil creatures as a pest and would use any means to get rid off them. Here not so. Here in bg3 you are bound to your words. Which is very offputting

It wouldnt suprise if there are some bugs too triggering oathbreaker after all new patch new mechanic as well

[Wraith]

Publicado originalmente por tkis:

whiteknighting approach towards the fact, that goblin lives do not matter, is just a no go

Their lives doesn’t matter

If you go aggressive toward the goblin every encounter without giving them the peaceful option first you don’t get an oathbreak from my personal testing

[Raï 𓆣]

This should be interesting.

Question that comes to mind right now though, can you restore an oath after it has been broken?

[KOHb]

Paladin is some kind of vegan — eat grass and don't kill living creatures :P

[ExcaliburV]

Publicado originalmente por 🜍:

This should be interesting.

Question that comes to mind right now though, can you restore an oath after it has been broken?

Yeah, you gotta pay 2k gold though.

[Raï 𓆣]

Publicado originalmente por ExcaliburV:

Publicado originalmente por 🜍:

This should be interesting.

Question that comes to mind right now though, can you restore an oath after it has been broken?

Yeah, you gotta pay 2k gold though.

2k gold :') This is very funny. And sad.

[Aldain]

Publicado originalmente por ExcaliburV:

Publicado originalmente por 🜍:

This should be interesting.

Question that comes to mind right now though, can you restore an oath after it has been broken?

Yeah, you gotta pay 2k gold though.

...That's highway robbery!

I wonder how oaths work in multiplayer...would a player going full murderhobo break your oath if you got involved by proximity?

[ExcaliburV]

Publicado originalmente por Aldain:

Publicado originalmente por ExcaliburV:

Yeah, you gotta pay 2k gold though.

...That's highway robbery!

I wonder how oaths work in multiplayer...would a player going full murderhobo break your oath if you got involved by proximity?

I expect you'd need to hit the "flee combat" button as soon as possible. As long as you leave soon enough to not have a hand in any of the killing, you might be alright.

[Aldain]

Publicado originalmente por ExcaliburV:

Publicado originalmente por Aldain:

...That's highway robbery!

I wonder how oaths work in multiplayer...would a player going full murderhobo break your oath if you got involved by proximity?

I expect you'd need to hit the "flee combat" button as soon as possible. As long as you leave soon enough to not have a hand in any of the killing, you might be alright.

That seems like it would be incredibly bad design in regards to multiplayer, just a huge avenue for trolling.

I'll reserve judgment until somebody who actually has tried it in multiplayer confirms it, but hoo boy if that's how Larian went about it...

[ExcaliburV]

Publicado originalmente por Aldain:

That seems like it would be incredibly bad design in regards to multiplayer, just a huge avenue for trolling.

I'll reserve judgment until somebody who actually has tried it in multiplayer confirms it, but hoo boy if that's how Larian went about it...

Yeah, that could be worth testing. It's also possible that initiating the combat is the thing that flags you, so as long as you don't strike the first blow you're fine. But I'm just guessing. I may be able to test it at some point, got plans to play a Pally with a friend that's running a Barb, so I expect shenanigans. But if someone could test it sooner, that'd be cool.

[brendan_in_china]

Sounds like you approached under a flag of truce, then turned on them. We kind of need all the details here.

That said, I'm playing through as devotion and getting to this part...

[Edstyles]

Publicado originalmente por brendan_in_china:

Sounds like you approached under a flag of truce, then turned on them. We kind of need all the details here.

That said, I'm playing through as devotion and getting to this part...

Yes thats what i said as well. He probably went back on his word without knowing, but what annoys me is that who cares if you lie to a goblin right? Its an evil creature anyway. They are literally trying to take over the grove lol. Where did the old paladins go where you would use any means needed for the cause? Vegan paladins idd in bg3.

[NixAhmose]

Publicado originalmente por brendan_in_china:

Sounds like you approached under a flag of truce, then turned on them. We kind of need all the details here.

That said, I'm playing through as devotion and getting to this part...

I think some people have seen too many stories like Star Wars where the good guys fake a surrender(which is literally considered a war crime) in order to get the jump on the bad guys and think that's a perfectly morally acceptable thing for heroes to do.

[GBR Warrior]

Just came here to write this, got attacked by Goblins inside the fort, after the killing the last one I got told my oath was broken. I can only assume that the last one counted as neutral or "Out of combat" or something. Because it would be stupid if the Oath broke every time you had to defend yourself