Best race for paladin?

[Bastila Shan]

What will offer the best stats for it?

[Locklave]

Mechanically Half-elf is better then human in all cases. Not sure why people suggest it when someone asks for "best". Human is only better if having more stats you don't use higher is important to you. Hardly how a normal person would define "best".

Publicado originalmente por WeenerTuck813:

The other contender will be Variant Human if it gets released.

+1 Str +1 Con-Or-Cha, and a free feat at level 1 (I like Polearm master and GWM)

This man speaks the truth and this should have already have been added. Human would be in standing for the best in this case.

[Hex]

Half-Elf and Human, same as since 3rd edition.

[WeenerTuck813]

Publicado originalmente por Hex:

Half-Elf and Human, same as since 3rd edition.

Human is a bad option as it is now without Variant human.

No Darkvision. No extra racial buffs like poison resistance or immunity to sleep. No movement buff, no cantrips.

You get +1 Str/Con/Cha which is a good start, but that’s all you get.

Half elf is getting the same with +2 Cha.

Mountain Dwarf is getting +2 Str/con.

Both are 4 points of value to humans 3 points, and human literally gets NOTHING else.

Unless you think +1 intel or Wisdom is worth a crap, which it’s not - not even worth the Darkvision humans don’t have

[jltays]

I went half high elf with the friendship spell and I almost never fail my npc interactions.

[Izuzul]

Anything longer than the 100 meters and that heavy armor is gonna be a real detriment.

[Mr Pibbleton]

I was very happy with a half high elf with the friends cantrip as well, however Zariel Tiefling would also be good since they get advantage on intimidation and performance checks due the thaumaturgy cantrip, plus they get free once per long rest smite spells so you can go nuts with smiting.

So to summarize High half elf, better talker, better tank, Zariel good talker, better offense.

BTW Totally go with oath of the ancients over oath of devotion, it's just more fun.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Just for stats, 1/2 Ef (probably Wood, but the extra cantrip is alright too) or the Dwarf that gets +2 Str/Con.

In both cases you're getting +4 to your stats, the Wood Elf just makes you put two of them into Cha (your casting stat) and then you choose the other two (which are probably going to be Str/Con, but you have the option to go Dexadin if you want to). Also, the +2 to Str and Con you get from the Dwarf means you'll be able to top out at 1 higher in either of those stats than the Elf could (since 17 is the highest you can possibly get at creation and you need a +2 to get it - then you use an ASI to put both up to 18, or one of them to 19 and then get Ethel's boon to get to 20).

So it kinda drpends, but rule of thumb: Elf better at Dexadin, Dwarf better at Strengthadin.

[OrcBro]

Half Orc.

[Farealm]

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Publicado originalmente por Hoboslayer:

Ok whats good for a defensive paladin, i want him built like a tank

Probably a dwarf, the +2 strength and +2 constitution is pretty solid and will probably net you the most hit points out of all the options, half elf will still be pretty decent though.

thats the build I went for -> with con 20 (L4) and casting aid (L5) went to 65HP
+ shuttered flail
+ volo's ring
+ healing gloves
+ shield +3 and shield of faith got to AC of 22

HE JUST CANT DIE

[Revener]

Meh! just play whatever race you want they all work.

I have playthroughs with both halfling Barbarian and Svirfneblin paladin, both use 2-hander never a shield.

It is annoying though that the point buy do not let you go over 15 in stats unless you have a a racial bonus. That is just dumb, it is common to get at least a 16 when rolling for stats.

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Did the same in solasta in all my playthroughs full halfling party, tank never use shield. No issues ewven when I messed up and was out of food and could not rest. And instead of reloading I did most of The Dark Castle without spells and just normal attacks.

[Mr Pibbleton]

Publicado originalmente por Revener:

Meh! just play whatever race you want they all work.

I have playthroughs with both halfling Barbarian and Svirfneblin paladin, both use 2-hander never a shield.

It is annoying though that the point buy do not let you go over 15 in stats unless you have a a racial bonus. That is just dumb, it is common to get at least a 16 when rolling for stats.

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Did the same in solasta in all my playthroughs full halfling party, tank never use shield. No issues ewven when I messed up and was out of food and could not rest. And instead of reloading I did most of The Dark Castle without spells and just normal attacks.

Lol last month I was playing Solasta with friends and my buddy was playing a paladin, spamming his detect undead ability because he could feel an ambush was coming. It does absolutely nothing in that game. People say it's more faithful but it's got abilities and options that just don't do anything or aren't relevant to the main campaign. It does have good Z-axis options though.

[KOHb]

Publicado originalmente por Farealm:

Publicado originalmente por Doc:

Probably a dwarf, the +2 strength and +2 constitution is pretty solid and will probably net you the most hit points out of all the options, half elf will still be pretty decent though.

thats the build I went for -> with con 20 (L4) and casting aid (L5) went to 65HP
+ shuttered flail
+ volo's ring
+ healing gloves
+ shield +3 and shield of faith got to AC of 22

HE JUST CANT DIE

And it's still could be less effective HP than a naked barbarian owns :D

[Linde]

IMO Drow is the best race due to dialogue options. So pick drow regardless of class is my advise.

[KOHb]

Publicado originalmente por Linde:

IMO Drow is the best race due to dialogue options. So pick drow regardless of class is my advise.

As for RP drow is one on the worst choices for a 'good' pally :)

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Publicado originalmente por Criminal Horse:

Publicado originalmente por Linde:

IMO Drow is the best race due to dialogue options. So pick drow regardless of class is my advise.

As for RP drow is one on the worst choices for a 'good' pally :)

You can play a Seldarine Drow...which would make playing a Paladin even more interesting/hard because people would be constantly trying to provoke you because they think you are Lolth-sworn.