Are any of these characters likeable?

[RattyRyan]

So by now you've probably all noticed and maybe taken part in the 250+ reply discussion "I REALLY dislike Karlach".

This got me thinking about the other characters in the party and I honestly can't find one that I actually like, except maybe Halsin, and obviously Scratch.

The problem for me is that I played DOS2, which had ridiculously good characters and development to those characters motivations and story all throughout the game. They were neither good, nor bad, but very complex, each with very good reasons for aligning one way or the other when push comes to shove. I felt I could roleplay any of them the way I wanted and still approach their story meaningfully with satisfying conclusions based on my choices. Better yet, all of the characters were likeable in their own way, despite, or perhaps because of all their genuinely well written flaws and how they overcame them (or didn't).

Now take BG3... I hate, not dislike, I HATE, every single one of these people I am forced to travel with. They are extremely well designed and voice acted from an artistic standpoint, but their character and personality are so irredeemably obnoxious, flat out evil, delusional, stupid, narcissistic, short sighted, brain damaged or a plethora of other faults it would take too long to list... that I find myself finding every one of them thoroughly unlikable.

I don't mean to say that I want to agree with all my characters and have no conflict, but I do at least want to find them relatable in some way. I want to be able to empathise with them so that I can understand where they are coming from and how they came to be the way they are. But when I try this with these characters I just end up realising they are all, extremely stupid, and that is their main character flaw. They are all extremely stupid people, who then have a heavy dose of backstory piled onto them that makes them look deep, but they are still the same short sighted nitwits which I can no longer stand to be around.

[Selunevis]

Scratch is the only decent of them all, but since dogs are not bisexual, the Dev´s couldn´t make him a companion... too much woke nad LGTWhatever tyrants behind the scenes moving the gears.

Personally, i go with the full merc run. They don´t try to harrass you sexually at every stop, they don´t interrupt your game with "bla bla bla only my oppinion matters (feel identifyed, wokists?) and you are free to use them as cannon fodder without the "save me, i´m the important one" bs.

[Non-binary Tiddies]

Maybe you just don't relate to the characters? And that's okay. The only ones I really don't like are Lae'Zel and Shadowheart myself, but even they have some admirable qualities hidden under there.

Could you maybe explain why you feel they are stupid?

[AsianGirlLover]

They’re all great, if you give them a chance to develop over time and befriend them.

[BeautifulFlowerField]

Only Lae'zel and only a little bit.

[talemore]

It's uncanny Lisa

[Kernest]

Karlach is super likeable and whoever started that other thread is dumb and wrong.

[Bloodwest]

Most dudes are chill, most gals need you to become their therapist before they start being bearable.

[Beytran70]

I like Gale, Shadowheart, Astarion, and Karlach just fine imo.

[✙205🍉🐆→]

3 characters that interest me:

Asterion - couldn't ascend because there was a bug with Leon
Gale - no final battle with the goddess
Minthara - no normal quest

[stun]

They're all super unlikeable
It's an accurate representation of what the average group would come up with if you told them you were playing an evil campaign though

[Lucifer ★✬]

Originally posted by Kernest:

Karlach is super likeable and whoever started that other thread is dumb and wrong.

This.

How cant you like that goofy f bombing fireball. She's so sweet. Her voice actor knocked it out of the park

Also the little things she dose, like after you beat the dudes that are after her ( I was on 1 hp and i walked tho some fire she set and died, lol) or the fistbump she dose at the party if you go her romantic route. They just make me like her even more.

If it was me ingame I would 100% be mates with her. She may even swing me over to the "big buff girl" side, witch I never thought I would even think about going over to, lol

[MakeshiftRiot]

I don't like any of them so I just don't take them. I'm not sure why this needs to be such an issue for this forum. Lol
Like them or don't. Take them or don't. It's your game. Have fun with it?

Edit:

Now take BG3... I hate, not dislike, I HATE, every single one of these people I am forced to travel with.

But you're not forced to take them. You can say no, you can kill them, you can ignore them.

[smellibear]

I would ask that you (collective) do some reading on what makes a good character. Because while you can say that a character, like a reading of a text, does not appeal to or resonate with you, that doesn't mean it's poorly constructed. You should also look up narrative arcs, because that would ground your criticisms, at least w/r/t Karlach. There are legit crits to be made, but you guys so very rarely make them

For example: one of the reasons you may find the companions distasteful is that they all share a personality. There is Fun Guy with Menacing Secret, and there's Strong Female Character. Now they have riffs on them, you can get Guy in Snark, Goofy, and Swashb7uckling, and you can get your women in shades of VIcious, Secretive, and Brash

[Kernest]

Originally posted by Lucifer ★✬:

or the fistbump she dose at the party if you go her romantic route.

This moment honestly doesn't get talked about enough. Adorable.

If I had to come up with a downside to Karlach, it's that she wouldn't go along with the foursome with the Drow twins.

But you can call her a spoilsport for it, and a "Karlach disapproves" is nowhere to be seen, she just calls you a degenerate.

And she's not wrong

[Jimmy]

DOS2 had good characters? Did you genuinely enjoy Lohse?