Baldur's Gate 3

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The Big Weeb Sep 17, 2023 @ 10:51am
Creating two Seperate installs for a seperate (non modded) COOP?
Hello, I have maybe a unique issue. I play with quite a bit of mods for BG3 that make me enjoy the game more. The issue is, I want to play with some friends who don't have any mods whatsoever. The discrepancy causes us imminent disconnects when we try to play together.

Instead of trying to delete/re-add mods whenever we want to hop into a COOP campaign, is there any way I can have two installations of the same game on maybe separate hard drives for a situation like this? Swap to one for CooP, and swap back for modded single player?

If any of you have had the same (ubiquitous) issue, I'd love to hear your workarounds.
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Stupid Noob Gamer Sep 17, 2023 @ 10:55am 
Originally posted by Weeb Trash:
Hello, I have maybe a unique issue. I play with quite a bit of mods for BG3 that make me enjoy the game more. The issue is, I want to play with some friends who don't have any mods whatsoever. The discrepancy causes us imminent disconnects when we try to play together.

Instead of trying to delete/re-add mods whenever we want to hop into a COOP campaign, is there any way I can have two installations of the same game on maybe separate hard drives for a situation like this? Swap to one for CooP, and swap back for modded single player?

If any of you have had the same (ubiquitous) issue, I'd love to hear your workarounds.

I tried this and it didn't work. Because both installs launch through the same steam, it detected the mods no matter which copy of the game I launched (I had the game on separate drives).

Maybe if you had two steam installs on separate drives, I dunno.
アンジェル Sep 17, 2023 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by Weeb Trash:
Creating two Seperate installs for a seperate (non modded) COOP?
Hello, I have maybe a unique issue. I play with quite a bit of mods for BG3 that make me enjoy the game more. The issue is, I want to play with some friends who don't have any mods whatsoever. The discrepancy causes us imminent disconnects when we try to play together.

Instead of trying to delete/re-add mods whenever we want to hop into a COOP campaign, is there any way I can have two installations of the same game on maybe separate hard drives for a situation like this? Swap to one for CooP, and swap back for modded single player?

If any of you have had the same (ubiquitous) issue, I'd love to hear your workarounds.

This is what you are looking for
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029018792
Crystal Sharrd Sep 17, 2023 @ 11:07am 
Use a mod manager with profiles.
The Big Weeb Sep 17, 2023 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by Crystal Sharrd:
Use a mod manager with profiles.
If I could simply do that I would. The BG3 Manager exists. I edit the Data files of the working executable itself and wanted to find another solution, not a smart ass half-response. Thanks anyway.
Last edited by The Big Weeb; Sep 17, 2023 @ 12:24pm
The Big Weeb Sep 17, 2023 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Stupid Noob Gamer:
Originally posted by Weeb Trash:
Hello, I have maybe a unique issue. I play with quite a bit of mods for BG3 that make me enjoy the game more. The issue is, I want to play with some friends who don't have any mods whatsoever. The discrepancy causes us imminent disconnects when we try to play together.

Instead of trying to delete/re-add mods whenever we want to hop into a COOP campaign, is there any way I can have two installations of the same game on maybe separate hard drives for a situation like this? Swap to one for CooP, and swap back for modded single player?

If any of you have had the same (ubiquitous) issue, I'd love to hear your workarounds.

I tried this and it didn't work. Because both installs launch through the same steam, it detected the mods no matter which copy of the game I launched (I had the game on separate drives).

Maybe if you had two steam installs on separate drives, I dunno.

I figured this might be the case, and unfortunately might be. I'll just have to convince my friends to install all the crud I have installed so we can play.
Loops Sep 17, 2023 @ 12:26pm 
Just guessing, does buying the game again on GOG work? Of course it's making you pay twice, but if you pick a different install and save folder, it's basically a separate app, no?
The Big Weeb Sep 17, 2023 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by Loops:
Just guessing, does buying the game again on GOG work? Of course it's making you pay twice, but if you pick a different install and save folder, it's basically a separate app, no?
Honestly If I had a separate 60$ this is pretty much the best solution! I guess I just have to make absolutely sure my home boys actually want to play before paying twice.
Loops Sep 17, 2023 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Weeb Trash:
Originally posted by Loops:
Just guessing, does buying the game again on GOG work? Of course it's making you pay twice, but if you pick a different install and save folder, it's basically a separate app, no?
Honestly If I had a separate 60$ this is pretty much the best solution! I guess I just have to make absolutely sure my home boys actually want to play before paying twice.
In that case you might consider Geforce NOW, obviously a half solution but it's not going to require buying a second copy, I think there is a free trial if you wait for a queue. It shouldn't matter if you have mods installed since it's running the game on a remote PC with original games files, no mods. Be sure to test this all before committing to it, I am only guessing here. Good luck!
アンジェル Sep 17, 2023 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Loops:
Just guessing, does buying the game again on GOG work? Of course it's making you pay twice, but if you pick a different install and save folder, it's basically a separate app, no?

No. That is not how it works.

If you want to avoid the obvious solution, go ahead.
Loops Sep 17, 2023 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by アンジェル:
Originally posted by Loops:
Just guessing, does buying the game again on GOG work? Of course it's making you pay twice, but if you pick a different install and save folder, it's basically a separate app, no?

No. That is not how it works.

If you want to avoid the obvious solution, go ahead.
Could you elaborate? If you're worried about the launcher it can be bypassed (I'm playing without it)
アンジェル Sep 17, 2023 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by Loops:
Originally posted by アンジェル:

No. That is not how it works.

If you want to avoid the obvious solution, go ahead.
Could you elaborate? If you're worried about the launcher it can be bypassed (I'm playing without it)

It is not the launcher. I made it clear in my guide: the game puts their cache and settings which are also related to mods in local AppData. No matter where you put it. You can only keep it cleanly separated by using a separate local AppData folder, which is done by using a different Windows user.

And since a new Windows user is rather clean, that means it comes without Steam and whatever makes the connection, the modded version cannot bleed out to your standard version if you separate it like that, or the other way around.

Buying the game twice, on Steam or / and on GOG.com will bring nothing unless you separate the local AppData and make sure that Steam does not interfere. If Steam interferes it will ignore your separated copy and just launch the default copy of the game. That is why, if you want it clean, you must exit Steam before launching the game.

For multiplayer people do not use friends invite for the separated copy. Hence they decide whether they use mod on the Steam one or on the separated one. If they keep their Steam one clean, they use Hamachi or invite code instead.
The Big Weeb Sep 17, 2023 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by Loops:
Originally posted by Weeb Trash:
Honestly If I had a separate 60$ this is pretty much the best solution! I guess I just have to make absolutely sure my home boys actually want to play before paying twice.
In that case you might consider Geforce NOW, obviously a half solution but it's not going to require buying a second copy, I think there is a free trial if you wait for a queue. It shouldn't matter if you have mods installed since it's running the game on a remote PC with original games files, no mods. Be sure to test this all before committing to it, I am only guessing here. Good luck!

I use an AMD card or else I would try. Thank you!
The Big Weeb Sep 17, 2023 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by アンジェル:
Originally posted by Loops:
Could you elaborate? If you're worried about the launcher it can be bypassed (I'm playing without it)

It is not the launcher. I made it clear in my guide: the game puts their cache and settings which are also related to mods in local AppData. No matter where you put it. You can only keep it cleanly separated by using a separate local AppData folder, which is done by using a different Windows user.

And since a new Windows user is rather clean, that means it comes without Steam and whatever makes the connection, the modded version cannot bleed out to your standard version if you separate it like that, or the other way around.

Buying the game twice, on Steam or / and on GOG.com will bring nothing unless you separate the local AppData and make sure that Steam does not interfere. If Steam interferes it will ignore your separated copy and just launch the default copy of the game. That is why, if you want it clean, you must exit Steam before launching the game.

For multiplayer people do not use friends invite for the separated copy. Hence they decide whether they use mod on the Steam one or on the separated one. If they keep their Steam one clean, they use Hamachi or invite code instead.
I fugured as much. When I checked the locak data folders there's nothing that lets me "simulate" them for a lack of a better word.
Loops Sep 17, 2023 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Weeb Trash:
Originally posted by Loops:
In that case you might consider Geforce NOW, obviously a half solution but it's not going to require buying a second copy, I think there is a free trial if you wait for a queue. It shouldn't matter if you have mods installed since it's running the game on a remote PC with original games files, no mods. Be sure to test this all before committing to it, I am only guessing here. Good luck!

I use an AMD card or else I would try. Thank you!
You don't need an nvidia card. I think you don't even need a PC, as you can play on an android tablet or w/e.

Originally posted by アンジェル:
Originally posted by Loops:
Could you elaborate? If you're worried about the launcher it can be bypassed (I'm playing without it)

It is not the launcher. I made it clear in my guide: the game puts their cache and settings which are also related to mods in local AppData. No matter where you put it. You can only keep it cleanly separated by using a separate local AppData folder, which is done by using a different Windows user.

And since a new Windows user is rather clean, that means it comes without Steam and whatever makes the connection, the modded version cannot bleed out to your standard version if you separate it like that, or the other way around.

Buying the game twice, on Steam or / and on GOG.com will bring nothing unless you separate the local AppData and make sure that Steam does not interfere. If Steam interferes it will ignore your separated copy and just launch the default copy of the game. That is why, if you want it clean, you must exit Steam before launching the game.

For multiplayer people do not use friends invite for the separated copy. Hence they decide whether they use mod on the Steam one or on the separated one. If they keep their Steam one clean, they use Hamachi or invite code instead.
This explanation went over my head but I'll take your word for it. Thanks!
Schizoid embolism Sep 17, 2023 @ 1:19pm 
ubiquitous means - existing everywhere at the same time, commonly encountered.

Also it doesn't matter whether it's a seperate install from GOG or whatever, it will still look to the same folder for the mods. Mod dir and Install Dir are not one and the same here. Your best bet is the one you dismissed as smart ass and half assed when he suggested setting up a temporary profile on a mod manager.
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