Question to those unhappy with romance/sex

[Adam__86]

So we all have seen people complain about romance and sex in BG3, with some legitimate issues but most are unreasonable. However a common sentence appears throughout "I don't want sex/romance in my video game!"

So my question is; If you don't like sex or romance in your games (i'll add same sex relationships too), then why did you buy a game that made no secret such things will be in it (esp throughout EA) to begin with?

[smellibear]

These are not people who are very... let's go with observant? Processing information like that isn't an area in which they excel is what I'm saying. A marketing campaign that plays up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ a bear is still too subtle for them

[Zergem]

Answer: there really aren't many games quite like BG3.

[Sistalis]

Cause for 70% of them, there's actually no issue at all with it they just want a gripiing point to troll on the game and will pick any subject that will get a rise.

19% are just homophobes, eeewwww Gale sugested something (There like lot of options to turn him down). A gay pixel man talked to me Now how will I face all my male friends without giving them the gay.

10% (Maybe less) are the religious type, Oh no saw a boobie "Mommy, I won't go to heaven"

For the reminding 1%, Illiteracy is a major issue and it's not fun to laugh at those people. The big M means mature and there might be adult sistuations be aware!

[Vizual]

The discourse surrounding the removal of sexual and romantic elements in Baldur's Gate 3 has been predominantly marred by the presence of troll posts. It's crucial to distinguish between those genuinely advocating for these changes due to the acknowledged bugs in the game and those who are merely trolling.

The persistent issues with characters like Gale, Wyll, and Halsin relentlessly pursuing romantic interactions despite repeated rejections understandably frustrate players. These problems have indeed prompted some players to suggest the OPTION to temporarily disable these elements for a smoother and more enjoyable gameplay experience. Given the acknowledged existence of these bugs by the developers, why not provide players with the option to turn them off, at least until the bugs are resolved?

However, it's evident to anyone with critical thinking skills that a substantial portion of the posts on this topic are undeniably driven by trolls seeking to provoke reactions and gain online recognition. Unfortunately, some individuals, including yourself, unintentionally fall into these provocations, perpetuating the cycle of such posts.

[gokam]

I don't really care, but in my opinion romance in games is just a trope now and expected even though it doesn't add anything to game unlike the old Bioware games that would add some dialog or something. Now it's just a bang fest that really doesn't do anything, it's kind of there just to be there.

[Snaef]

I didn't and don't buy games because they advertise sex or nudity.
Honestly I couldn't care less for it.
Romance is fine, I enjoyed the BG 1&2 approach infinity more then this, and I wish Larian had put more effort into designing everything else, aspects I actually care about, in a video game.

[Beytran70]

Originally posted by Sistalis:

Cause for 70% of them, there's actually no issue at all with it they just want a gripiing point to troll on the game and will pick any subject that will get a rise.

19% are just homophobes, eeewwww Gale sugested something (There like lot of options to turn him down). A gay pixel man talked to me Now how will I face all my male friends without giving them the gay.

10% (Maybe less) are the religious type, Oh no saw a boobie "Mommy, I won't go to heaven"

For the reminding 1%, Illiteracy is a major issue and it's not fun to laugh at those people. The big M means mature and there might be adult sistuations be aware!

[WildOrchid]

'I don't want sex/romance in my games!' while also say Witcher is the best game ever made. Or Mass Effect because all the women were available for the male only where the gays got diddly squat until later (and don't say Liara, i'm talking about strict lesbian or gay love interests). They cannot have a harem of women only in bg3 and also add the fact they haven't been used to getting hit on by dudes.

The backflip some do when it doesn't suit their tastes is something very entertaining to see I can't lie.

[Vizual]

Originally posted by Sistalis:

Cause for 70% of them, there's actually no issue at all with it they just want a gripiing point to troll on the game and will pick any subject that will get a rise.

19% are just homophobes, eeewwww Gale sugested something (There like lot of options to turn him down). A gay pixel man talked to me Now how will I face all my male friends without giving them the gay.

10% (Maybe less) are the religious type, Oh no saw a boobie "Mommy, I won't go to heaven"

For the reminding 1%, Illiteracy is a major issue and it's not fun to laugh at those people. The big M means mature and there might be adult sistuations be aware!

I would contend that approximately 95% of the discourse revolves around trolling, if not more.

Also regarding Gale. It's not so much that people are concerned about Gale suggesting a sexual relationship; it's the persistent bug wherein, even after rejecting him, he relentlessly pursues such a relationship with the player. "I encountered this exact bug during my first playthrough with Gale, and it was exceptionally frustrating." The developers have indeed acknowledged this bug, not only with Gale but also with Wyll and Halsin, and have committed to actively addressing it.

I have yet to come across a single non-troll post expressing a desire for the removal of relationships or sexual content on religious grounds. However, I have encountered a few individuals who are genuinely upset about bestiality within the game, and their concerns hold merit. Even if one aligns with LS, it remains comprehensible why such content could be disconcerting to some.

And that leaves the last group of individuals who may not grasp the M rating. I would say they probably constitutes closer to 0.1%, if not less, rather than 1%. But even still their complaints are likely inevitable, people are going to complain it's the nature of the internet. And we can safely disregard them.

[Razör]

Because they don't know how to navigate dialogue options to avoid having sex with a bear. Because they dont have any idea what social skills and cues are. So they blame devs for their smooth mashed potato brain decision making.

[Zero McDol]

It's a simple answer for anyone who is complaining about sex in this game, but do pardon the assumption:

- Romance is in the tags. Plenty of games have romance without sex, so to me it's a fair to assume no sexual content.
- Sexual Content is not in the tags.
- LGBTQ+ Content is not in the tags.

Steam uses a tag system which allows players to filter out games with content that they do or do not want to play. More often than not, I suspect that some or even potentially most, including myself at times, don't even read the ESRB description for the rating of the game that is bought. Why? Because using a tag filter is far simpler, easier, and faster.

Now there are games out there that do not have a tag for content, but have the content none the less. There are also games that have a tag for content, but Do Not have that content in their game. Why does this happen? The game gets the user tags, but the Developers, Studio, or Publisher, filters these tags. These instances end up upsetting a lot of games that use a tag filter system, because it ends up circumventing Steams' tag system.

I hope that that explains it.

[FaceMcGee]

Among the tags issues, there's also the fact that D&D is a family activity for a lot of people these days. Having to miss experiencing with my family what is, despite the depravity, one of the best made CRPGs in a decade or more sucks. Why do we miss it? Simply because pathetic thirst-folk want to masturbate to EVERY GAME. It is extremely frustrating, and disappointing.

[Professor Hugedix]

Your question is based on a false premise. I know you're kind of a low effort troll with a very obvious agenda but nobody is going to take seriously the claim that most critics of the relationships are asking for less or no romance. They want better written and implemented romance that doesn't beat you over the head.

You may wish to claim people that would prefer not to have nearly every camp interaction in act 1 be someone asking if it's their turn to wrestle your tadpole are being unreasonable, that they're puritans or homophobes or whatever else, but you've yet to demonstrate any truth to this for the entire time you've been starting pointless arguments over the topic.

It might be difficult for you to process, but people can have an opinion about this based on how it affects the narrative flow and pacing, cheapening the ongoing narrative by having otherwise well rounded companions start fighting over the PC like they're a harem anime protagonist.

Do you think the game would somehow be worse if the romances were available for people that wanted to pursue them at the pace they were comfortable with rather than having a half dozen suitors all vying for your affection at once, constantly pressing the issue with varying degrees of unsubtlety? Doesn't seem like it would affect anything for people that like it the way it is, but would improve the experience quite a bit for those who dislike having to turn down advances every time they want to get some downtime to idly chat and pick up their companion's story quests. Genuinely curious to hear how it would negatively affect anyone, because from where I'm sitting it kinda looks like you don't have a legitimate reason to keep trying to shoot down these criticisms and you do it because you like starting fights.

[smellibear]

Originally posted by FaceMcGee:

Among the tags issues, there's also the fact that D&D is a family activity for a lot of people these days. Having to miss experiencing with my family what is, despite the depravity, one of the best made CRPGs in a decade or more sucks. Why do we miss it? Simply because pathetic thirst-folk want to masturbate to EVERY GAME. It is extremely frustrating, and disappointing.

Yes, and the rest of the game is so very family friendly. All that family friendly language, and violence, and I can't keep this up, you are exactly the sort of person I was talking about. Just not very observant

[FaceMcGee]

Originally posted by smellibear:

Originally posted by FaceMcGee:

Among the tags issues, there's also the fact that D&D is a family activity for a lot of people these days. Having to miss experiencing with my family what is, despite the depravity, one of the best made CRPGs in a decade or more sucks. Why do we miss it? Simply because pathetic thirst-folk want to masturbate to EVERY GAME. It is extremely frustrating, and disappointing.

Yes, and the rest of the game is so very family friendly. All that family friendly language, and violence, and I can't keep this up, you are exactly the sort of person I was talking about. Just not very observant

I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about language or violence. I cuss like a sailor, and they've been playing skyrim since they were able to hold a controller.

I don't, however, ♥♥♥♥ or watch porn with or around my kids.

Nice false equivalency,

edit: As a paragon of observation you'd think you'd get that it isn't that I'm surprised the game has it, i'm DISAPPOINTED it does.